The Dark side of the western surfer

[icetime]

surfing is great and non violent. it is good and it does not polute the sea

You have not even stood up on a surfboard, and are telling everyone about a sport/lifestyle you have not done yet ? Yes, surfing IS great. But trust me, it can get very violent. There isn't much hassling for waves and dropping in on during Kelly Slater Pro surfer PS4 games. The real world is quite different. It always was violent, especially when kooks/half goods think they "deserve" to be surfing this certain wave.

You still haven't learned much in the way of actual surfing, but you seem to have studied/research about surfboards. Then if you did, you would have found out surfboards/surfboard making produces a lot of bad chemicals and waste. Surfboards are primarily made from petroleum based products. Surfboards are not easy to recycle, what do you do with them after they snap/break in two ?

I agree with waikikichan, surfing as a sport isn't violent, the people are, the locals are my break are in constant fist fights every day, the only way I stay out of fights is basically ignoring people yelling at me and I just paddle off into the distance (More volume faster paddling )
For the pollution part, surfing isn't polluting the ocean constantly every time you surf but if you snap a board and it drifts off into the ocean or you lose a bootie or something like that, it'll take decades to decay and microbes will eat those materials and poison fish that eat plankton and decrease the ecosystems population in general.

On the other hand, you can't know what surfing is until you paddle out and surf for a while, every session you learn a new thing and one of them is that ripped as hell local that thinks he owns every wave, or that guy that's older than you that always drops in on you but you can't do much about it or else it'll end up in a fist fight, what you read online and see in videos only shows the beautiful part, men sitting on boards waiting for sets, pulling into barrels, what they don't show is crowded lineups, fist fights and waxed car windows

[jaffa1949]

A simple start, take thrash with you, thank the beach by clean up some rubbish!
Find your own ways to make the experience better

[DreamSurf]

Not a surfing issueper say. But its a part of it ofcourse. The great barrier has officially died today

http://www.outsideonline.com/2112086/ob ... on-bc-2016

[jaffa1949]

Good to see you haven't gone away!

[oldmansurfer]

It ain't dead because some one published an article saying it is. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/great-barrier-reef-severe-stress-not-dead-yet

[RinkyDink]

Not a surfing issueper say.

It's not a western issue either.

[oldmansurfer]

Not a surfing issueper say.

It's not a western issue either.

It's not even true but then if it were is Australia a western nation? If you look at the world reefs it seems that area around Australia espesically north of it is where the worst problems are

[DreamSurf]

Not a surfing issueper say.

It's not a western issue either.

It's not even true but then if it were is Australia a western nation? If you look at the world reefs it seems that area around Australia espesically north of it is where the worst problems are

its not the westerners nor the surfer per say. its a world thing. i have this bdvd called oceans and the other is about earth. at first i never believed it was really an issue. but the more i investigated it the more i realised that we as human beings are really a species that is killing the earth. it is inevatable(srry for grammar) even if i throw my waste in the bin outside. it will be put somewhere on earth to decay dissolve.

yes it didnt die. but it is a column or opinion of a person that has seen this stuff dieying. should he be taken seriously? yes i think so.

also to blame is a hard thing to do. if there is cars in africa it means europe is getting the filth. so all the smog and stuff doesnt even stay in africa. if you pollute somewhere with a strong stream???

i mean in the war of andalusia where queen elisabeth killed all spaniards who became muslim washed ashore in japan. and the japanese even threathened spain that there are so many bodies of children that it wasnt even funny. now ofcourse we are made of a good hard material. but surely all the smog goes elsewhere. and that also goes for some polluted substances. especially chemicals.

gran canaria is even said that if it goes on like it is now that maybe it becomes un livable( it looks fine tho:))

back to that great barrier. it was a very big thing and its decreasing. thats where the focus lies. and what impact does it have to other living species. especially the rare ones.

[DreamSurf]

Good to see you haven't gone away!

i just put some of them on ignore. there is no point holding a grudge to the good guy. and there is no point being angry at someone who doesnt contribute in discussions. i got it all figured on surfing waves

on this forum at the early stage u could devide people

1. the really bad troll person
2. the teacher angry cause i dont follow the known standard lead.
3. the nice person that isnt really nice but pretends to
4. the nice person
5. the person like me. ive seen them on the search button that got it quick like me but were smarter then me and left this forum on time so that they dont have to catch or give effort.

but hey its all good. cause i know. thats all that counts. it is a personal journey and a personal benefit. i get my energy from doing it and not from getting attention about how good i am or bad. it is in me. and if people wanna help and share. yes i can use that. thats it jaffa.
you will find me asking for tips. but i dont give a log bout what i did or will do. this thing is unappreciated without hot proof.
really i personally believe everyone.

no one is chad muska first day on skateboard
shaun white first day on snowboard
kelly slater first day on surfboard
etcetera and so forth.

jaffa lets rest this case . on topic again

[billie_morini]

on this forum at the early stage u could devide people
1. the really bad troll person
2. the teacher angry cause i dont follow the known standard lead.
3. the nice person that isnt really nice but pretends to
4. the nice person
5. the person like me. ive seen them on the search button that got it quick like me but were smarter then me and left this forum on time so that they dont have to catch or give effort.

Really?! On our beloved surfing waves website, Dreamsurf?! Kidding you!

[oldmansurfer]

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no one is chad muska first day on skateboard
shaun white first day on snowboard
kelly slater first day on surfboard
etcetera and so forth.

No one is Kelly Slater on the second day or the third day or the first year or the second year or the third year etcetera and so forth

[waikikikichan]

No one is Kelly Slater on the second day or the third day or the first year or the second year or the third year etcetera and so forth

But even the greatest surfer of all time,11 time world champion Kelly Slater, did not do a 2cm. Indy grab air in his first two weeks.

[BaNZ]

Dreamsurf, you were boasting how good you are on a skateboard and how easy it would be for you to pick up surf because of all the skills and experienced you acquired from skateboarding. You wouldn't listen to any of the advice and would get defensive as soon as you see a comment that you dislike. You were also giving false hope to people on the forum saying that you're going to record the video of you doing crazy stuff. But instead, we didn't get any of those. You hyped it all up but there was no delivery. I think we can both agree that in the real world, we call those people politician liars?

I find it incredible that you claim you can do all those airs and 180. Most of us on here have been trying for years to do all the stuff you mentioned. When we tell you that it's not possible, you get offended. Just think about it, if someone who has never skate in their life tells you that he can skate better than you on the first week. What would you think?

I do have to give you that you're definitely dedicated to surf. I do enjoy the videos and the effort you put in. I was actually really looking forward to your progress video. I wanted to see if someone is a master of skates can also master surf in a short period of time.

Oh and you should watch North Shore movie. You're like the kook in there. Perhaps one day you will prove us wrong and you will make it out there.

[Big H]

Dream....don't spit on people who try to help you. Save the bravado for those who are not familiar with the surfing learning curve.....we all are and we know without looking at a video what it will look like for the next three to six months.....there really are no shortcuts; once you learn to position, build up paddling fitness and start to catch waves, then all bets are off and we'll see if there is a prodigy among us; can't fake paddle fitness, muscle tone to hold posture on a board (paddle 300m with your chest up and feet held just on the surface of the water and you'll know exactly which muscles I mean) We'll be here once you decide to come back to earth, let go of that ego and speak honestly about issues you're facing......nobody likes being lied to; you got the soft treatment in truth; making statements like you did is like spitting and wiping your feet on all the hard work that real surfers put in to learn the most basic of techniques.....join the fold and put in the work and boast about how you managed to pop up and turn down the line and hold the wave rather than racing out into the flats and bogging out rather than an immeasurable air manuver (manure) after two weeks at it. The core of this site are really good people; go have a look around at the other surf pages and you'll see the contrast and will be able to imagine how badly you would have been lit up for just the title of your first thread. We didn't do that; the vibe here is that members honestly want others to improve and enjoy surfing......come back around when you get what I'm saying.

[oldmansurfer]

If he says he did a 2 cm air then who was there to watch him? Not me. So even though it seems highly unlikely I am not going to say no you didn't do this but then at 2 cm it's not really an air because your fins are still in the water. Does it really matter if he did this or not? Either way it doesn't change my life. Is it completely impossible? I don't think so but highly unlikely yes. I don't see why chastise him for something that no one witnessed. In time he will be posting videos of his airs or not and then we will know. I have been posting on this forum for three years and during this time I haven't ever seen a guy picked on as much as this guy. Ok so I understand why but still he just has the bug. He wants to be that surfer like Kaimana Jaquias in the video I posted in the ten types of people in the lineup thread who is actually a pro surfer and has surfed since he was 9 years old and whose father (the fat guy surfing in that video) was a pro surfer also. Kaimana won the Open Mens' division of the 2011 NSSA Nationals. He is a very good surfer and why he hasn't made the WCT I am not sure but the skills are there. In pro contests he will often have the highest scoring wave of the heat but no backup wave. Anyway there is no shortcut to get as good as Kaimana. At the very least years in the water surfing.