by bajoman » Tue May 17, 2011 11:58 pm
by beachbumuk » Wed May 18, 2011 5:19 pm
by bajoman » Thu May 19, 2011 11:58 pm
by behindThePeak » Fri May 20, 2011 3:35 am
by jaffa1949 » Fri May 20, 2011 4:08 am
bajoman wrote:Thanks beachbumuk- I did check it out, great info, but it doesn't really answer my question: At my stage, will single fin or 2+1 be best for my progress (or will it matter at all)? Looking to noseride and work on turns- should I concentrate on one before the other? And what's the best setup to learn them on?
by bajoman » Tue May 24, 2011 12:47 am
by jaffa1949 » Tue May 24, 2011 3:43 am
bajoman wrote:Thanks guys! I do want to try going to single fin, I just didn't want it to set me back (good days in the spring are too few and far between and I don't want to frustrate myself if there's a new big learning curve involved!) That being said, will my board work with just the 8" single fin or will I have to get a longer one? It's a 9'2 NSP (epoxy) with a squash tail. I'm 163 lbs. (74kg) and average wave height is waist high (that all factors in, right?) Also, should I start out with the single fin at the back of the box or keep it in the middle? Thanks again for the sage advice!
by Rickyroughneck » Tue May 24, 2011 10:29 am
by jaffa1949 » Tue May 24, 2011 1:22 pm
by Rickyroughneck » Tue May 24, 2011 7:46 pm
jaffa1949 wrote:Uncle Jaffa's fin answer here is, that fin should be fine, the carving will be in rounder arcs especially forward in the box.
You could decrease the side bite size if you wish to turn really tight. Performance wise the side bites open up the upper face of the wave more easily.
Often if you go to the thruster configuration, three smaller fin equal size fins, trim and nose riding, will break the fins free and cause side slip especially if as a performance longboard you've been given more tail rocker .
My personal choice that gives me the options in both nose riding ( and I'm a there and back nose job) and performance everything except airs (can't do them nor do I want to) on medium to bigger waves with power is this configurationfile.jpg
Really there is no right answer only what works for you as you wish to ride.
Often we look for a magic something but the answer is to improve and maintain our skills. sometimes in improving we then notice where our equipment is not matching our intent then it's time to change.
I know that sounds like I'm contradicting my self so I suggest try everything, the answer is the surfing.
by jaffa1949 » Wed May 25, 2011 4:30 am
Rickyroughneck wrote:Mmm thanks for the answer, that makes a lot of sense. Out of curiosity, are the side bites on that board closer to parallel with the board direction? (i.e. less cant). Perhaps that is the key to creating a versatile board that could handle steep faces and noseriding. I heard that straight side-bites make boards stiff and hard to turn though, is that true?
I fully agree that practice and surfing is the best way... the nearest waves are a short drive away and I don't own a car, so I can only get out when I scam lifts from people, which is rarely (I pay petrol money ofc). I don't really have the water time or money to test stuff like fin configurations
by Rickyroughneck » Thu May 26, 2011 12:31 am
jaffa1949 wrote:Rickyroughneck wrote:Mmm thanks for the answer, that makes a lot of sense. Out of curiosity, are the side bites on that board closer to parallel with the board direction? (i.e. less cant). Perhaps that is the key to creating a versatile board that could handle steep faces and noseriding. I heard that straight side-bites make boards stiff and hard to turn though, is that true?
I fully agree that practice and surfing is the best way... the nearest waves are a short drive away and I don't own a car, so I can only get out when I scam lifts from people, which is rarely (I pay petrol money ofc). I don't really have the water time or money to test stuff like fin configurations
Rickyroughneck the toe in is about 5 degrees and the cant is about 4. Agree with the 0 degree parallel side bite being an issue they effectively increase the over fin base on the board hence harder to turn.
With your travel arrangements I'd go with that single fin.![]()
Cheers Jaffa
by DaveRocks » Tue May 31, 2011 10:15 am
by jaffa1949 » Tue May 31, 2011 11:14 am
jaffa1949 wrote:Really there is no right answer only what works for you as you wish to ride.
Often we look for a magic something but the answer is to improve and maintain our skills. sometimes in improving we then notice where our equipment is not matching our intent then it's time to change.
I know that sounds like I'm contradicting my self so I suggest try everything, the answer is the surfing.
by drowningbitbybit » Tue May 31, 2011 11:18 am
jaffa1949 wrote:there is no failure in wipeout
by jaffa1949 » Tue May 31, 2011 1:07 pm
drowningbitbybit wrote:jaffa1949 wrote:there is no failure in wipeout
I might get that as a tattoo...![]()
by DaveRocks » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:09 pm
by jaffa1949 » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:32 am
DaveRocks wrote:"Life is a journey, of cause your going to trip over sometimes." Wipe-out or what ever.
Tooo deep, just have fun. No tats please!
Cheers, Dave.
by bajoman » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:15 am
by jaffa1949 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:13 pm
bajoman wrote:Hi Guys,
Quick follow up: I took out the sidebites and moved the center fin back just a little and went out in a waist high day. INSTANT LOVE! I could definitely tell there was less drag as I paddled and caught (many more) waves. The looseness of the tail felt great and made a big impact on me. I suddenly felt like I was flowing with the board instead of fighting it and trying to muscle it into turns. I am definitely a convert! Turns are much easier and more natural. Now the question is- when (in my progression or depending on conditions) will I want to put those sidebites back in (if ever)? I'm still working on the noseriding part, too but not much new there. Along those lines, I noticed watching other longboarders that most guys stay back on the tail the whole ride, whereas I feel the need to move forward to the trim spot (for speed or to make a section) at some point on almost every ride. Not sure why that is?
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