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Postby drowningbitbybit » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:04 am

kitesurfer wrote:As appealing as that sounds we are in fact having the windiest summer ever here and the kitesurfing has been epic.


:bow: *DBBB thanks his lucky stars he made a break for it before the UK summer* :bow:
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Postby flyingvee » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:25 pm

PapaW wrote:I still think a few barges sunk out there would do a better job.


Reckon your right on the money there PW, but it's too logical and the HSE would have kittens I'd imagine :roll:
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Postby kitesurfer » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:32 pm

LOL one of the guys from the local surf shops has been quoted as saying this

Paul Clarke, from Bournemouth Surfing Centre, said: "We have been waiting for over 10 years for this day.

"It's a dream come true for the surfing community of Bournemouth.

"The reef will turn an unrideable knee high wave into a head high wave that peels perfectly for around 70m (230ft) in length."

Yeah right that old chesnut! 8)
Time will tell.

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Postby Sar » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:53 pm

The story featured on Channel 4 news today - always respected 4 news.....then the reporter finished off with "its time to hang ten...." :lol:
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Postby Kabazz » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:33 pm

According to a fat lady in a boat on the news, it will be the only reef in the northern hemisphere!!
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Postby surferdude_scarborough » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:30 pm

ha ha i love everything ive heard and read about this reef. it cracks me up how the council thinks it will make perfect waves all the time and bring in loads of tourists and such. has nobody told them that perfect waves only happen with perfect swell. how often does that happen on the south coast? also from my experience surfers will try and put as little of their money into "touristy" channels as possible. for example theres two spots with similar surf but one has a free car park. where do you surf?

on the slightly less funny side i fell too many inexperienced surfers will use it and will get problems with being that far from shore. increased coastgaurd callouts etc.
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Postby Ged » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:57 pm

250 yards is not a long paddle.
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Postby Ged » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:09 pm

Ok, Iv changed my mind, 250 yards is a fairly long paddle, but people who arent up for it will get tired and give in. ie people who are complete novices, or if they are tired when they get out there wont be able to compete for the waves, if there are any. There are are large numbers of reefs from 100M to upto several miles from the shore, in Puerto Rico. People just dont go to them if the paddle is more than 50 M unless they want a wave pretty much to themselves. There are a few reefs about 50 to 100 M from the shore in the main metropolitain areas like San Juan, however the line up is generally pretty good. Its then like any break near the shore, ie competitive.
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Postby Ged » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:21 pm

Anyway my point is that the furthur out it is, the less the competition will be. So its a good thing to put it a long way out.
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Postby surferdude_scarborough » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:18 pm

Ged wrote:Ok, Iv changed my mind, 250 yards is a fairly long paddle, but people who arent up for it will get tired and give in. ie people who are complete novices, or if they are tired when they get out there wont be able to compete for the waves, if there are any. There are are large numbers of reefs from 100M to upto several miles from the shore, in Puerto Rico. People just dont go to them if the paddle is more than 50 M unless they want a wave pretty much to themselves. There are a few reefs about 50 to 100 M from the shore in the main metropolitain areas like San Juan, however the line up is generally pretty good. Its then like any break near the shore, ie competitive.


hell no its not a hugely long paddle. but its far enough to tire out kooks who might not have the energy to get back in. also stayingon the peak on a break that exposed to currents and wind isnt going to be easy. hence lots of kooks will get into trouble.
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Postby Ged » Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:30 am

surferdude_scarborough wrote:
Ged wrote:Ok, Iv changed my mind, 250 yards is a fairly long paddle, but people who arent up for it will get tired and give in. ie people who are complete novices, or if they are tired when they get out there wont be able to compete for the waves, if there are any. There are are large numbers of reefs from 100M to upto several miles from the shore, in Puerto Rico. People just dont go to them if the paddle is more than 50 M unless they want a wave pretty much to themselves. There are a few reefs about 50 to 100 M from the shore in the main metropolitain areas like San Juan, however the line up is generally pretty good. Its then like any break near the shore, ie competitive.


hell no its not a hugely long paddle. but its far enough to tire out kooks who might not have the energy to get back in. also stayingon the peak on a break that exposed to currents and wind isnt going to be easy. hence lots of kooks will get into trouble.


Fair enough, perhaps you should have a rule that you cant surf it, unless you can paddle there and back four times? or you could start a jetski taxi service (Joking). This whole thing reminds me a bit of the commercialisation of rockclimbing. There are people who want to make money from it so they developed indoor climbing, and this was initially used by real climbers as training when it was wet etc. As climbing grew more popular, pressure started to grow on the outside routes and people started to bolt limestone routes outside therefore making them accessible. Im firmly in the antibolting camp. I think bolts should be removed, because the reason that most crag is not climbed is because noone has the balls to climb it. This kind of crag belongs to the birds. If you put up bolts you make it accessible to people and its then a conservation issue. On the gritstone routes in the north climbers are brought up with this ethic, so if you find a bolt in gritstone you pull it out. The ethic is that if you cant climb it on natural gear, you cant climb it, and this is a conservation issue.
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Postby kitesurfer » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:30 am

250m straight out but with the predominant winds in this spot you will need to start probably 500m upwind to hit the reef. This makes it closer to a 550m paddle! Somewhat further. Then once you get there you'll have to contend with strong cross shore current and me jumping over your head every 5mins! :wink: :twisted: :D 8)

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Postby esonscar » Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:37 pm

Good, the more YOU jump the less in OUR way you will be you heathen !

( esonscar whispers - psst, I don't think he can duck dive ) lol !
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Postby Ged » Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:37 pm

esonscar wrote:Good, the more YOU jump the less in OUR way you will be you heathen !

( esonscar whispers - psst, I don't think he can duck dive ) lol !


Personally I love tons of foam. The line up simply dissapears!!!
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knee-hight to a grasshopper?

Postby market-research » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:59 am

does anyone know about the progress on the reef construction?
is it proceeding?
will it be finished this year as promised?
are the knee height waves going to be like the pipeline after it is finished?
I did my thesis on marketig oversell and its backlash consequences - is it possible that artificial reefs are being "oversold"
if anyone is living near the reef can they report on its progress?
cheers
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Postby drowningbitbybit » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:29 am

See this more up to date thread Bournemouth Reef
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Re: knee-hight to a grasshopper?

Postby kitesurfer » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:49 am

market-research wrote:does anyone know about the progress on the reef construction?
is it proceeding?
will it be finished this year as promised?
are the knee height waves going to be like the pipeline after it is finished?
I did my thesis on marketig oversell and its backlash consequences - is it possible that artificial reefs are being "oversold"
if anyone is living near the reef can they report on its progress?
cheers


PM Brent, im sure he'll have something to say on the matter.

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Postby market-research » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:53 pm

hi again KS,

take it easy

Brent does not live in Bournemouth?

I was hoping to hear from Bournemouth observers and what they are hearing, seeing and saying.

I just dont place much creedance on many media reports. I'm afraid, as the media seems to be so easily manipulated and sometimes just so wrong and really misleading to the point of seriously disruptive to what is real and what is not real..

For example is it a fake reef ? as is reported by the BBC and a few other places - no i dont think so!

But what is it really right now , as seen by those who are there?

So What is happening right now in Bournmouth and is there a "news blackout" or has the reef construction been difficult or suspended due to any type of governing circumstance? :(

Hence there is nothing to report on progress. :?

Or is all well and it is being built on time with no disruption to the timeline and progress? :D



Sorry, but its a simple question? :oops:

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Postby kitesurfer » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:27 am

market-research wrote:hi again KS,

take it easy

Brent does not live in Bournemouth?

For example is it a fake reef ? as is reported by the BBC and a few other places - no i dont think so!



No but he lives very close to one that this company has already placed in the sea and as such is very well placed to give you valuable infomation on exactly the type of reef it is.
But again you are right Brent does not live in bournemouth.

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Postby phillwilson » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:18 pm

haha, ""news black out" :) sorry M-R but please... thats a phrase reserved for stolen missiles and the safe traffic of nuclear waste, what we are I think looking as is "nothing much to report"

heck,even the local papers have garden fetes and the "back to school" events to write stories on.

LUMP OF SAND STILL ON BEACH

is not much of a headline.

still, maybe if some interested party was to show this growing swell of opposition to the reef to the local rag, maybe they would pick up on it?

anyone friends with a councillor?
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