British Airways will no longer carry your board

[drowningbitbybit]

Those destroyers of boards, British Airways, who til now have carried boards for free, will now no longer carry boards at all BA webpage

One more airline to strike off the list...

[drowningbitbybit]

Oh, and apparently....

the policy is going to be the same for ALL ONE WORLD partners! - BA, Qantas, Iberia, American Airlines, JAL, LAN Cathay Pacific

**this bit yet to be confirmed, but its looking likely**

[flyingvee]

LOL Looks like you are gonna have to drive your bus down-under!

[jethrodog]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

They need to wait to enforce this until after Kitesurfer comes to visit again in May.

[joem]

so will there be no way to fly boards

[Surfing-Innovation]

Wow - that sucks big time!!! I can't see the air freight being so much though - but the chances of it getting broke will maybe go up??

Why not just sell up and buy new when you get there???

[Real Pol]

I can't see the air freight being so much though - but the chances of it getting broke will maybe go up??

My mate sent his board from Aberdeen to somewhere outside of Melbourne and it cost him £200.
It ain't cheap and that was just a box the size of a medium thruster!

It cost me £20 to take my board on return to the Canaries with Thomas Cook last week!

I'd hate to go surfing for a couple of weeks and have to hire a board!!

[thaya]

i bought a board when i got to hawaii and sold it right before I left, so it didn't cost me anything... but i did get a little bit attached to it and considered bringing it back with me. I know the guy I sold it to so it went to a good home... and he said if i did go back there, he'd sell it back to me

i can't believe all major airlines will stop you from taking your board though... I mean, WHY? people take all sorts of crap on planes, why single out surfboards?

This may sound like a stupid question (and probably is ) but how will pro surfers travel from place to place with their own boards??? (unless they have their own private planes...)

has the world gone mad?

[cwell27]

I dont think they will ban taking surfboards on planes altogether. Most likely they will increase the price. There is no way Qantas will stop it. They would lose so much business flying to and from Bali it would be insane. What about those obese people? Are they going to start banning them to? Because one of them weighs alot more than three of my boards.

[ANZAC]

Any airline that wont freight surfboards should be put on a boycott list!
That sucks big time!

[ILee]

BSA have started a petition so get signing.

http://www.gopetition.com/online/14891.html

[jimbib123]

Ahhh i bought a board on my travels and am flying back from NY next month! This is so annoying! Rekon i can convince them it's a snowboard?

[ILee]

Doesn't come into effect until the 6th November so you should be ok if you going early next month!

[ILee]

Come on people there are nearly 7,000 surfers registered to this forum everyone needs to sign the BSA Petition and join Facebook and send emails to let BA know how strong we feel about this. It maybe to late with BA but we don't want the rest of the airlines to follow suit

[jimbib123]

Doesn't come into effect until the 6th November so you should be ok if you going early next month!

Not flying until the 23rd!, i'm screwed!

[ILee]

You should be ok.

The airline said it would be honouring bookings made by surfers before 6 November

[kitesurfer]

Here's a BA update taken from a kitesurfing forum.

BA Update

Summary: for now, you can (unofficially) keep travelling with kitebags for tickets booked before or after 6 November until BA find a solution to carrying them.

Read on.

I have spent the last couple of weeks speaking to people at BA headquarters about the new policy. I have spoken to a number of individuals working my way round the organisation and eventually ended up speaking to a gentleman who describes himself as being ultimately responsible for the new policy.

The upshot is this:

1. It seems the reason they have implemented the new policy is because they are trying to reduce the number of items that have to be "manually handled". They are trying to reduce these items (a) because they cannot figure out how to price and collect extra fees for the extra handling and (b) because whenever manual handling is involved they seem to "lose" bags, for which they suffer cost and negative publicity. They reckon it is less hassle overall to just refuse to carry items that have to be manually handled.

2. That said, in the real world it would be just too damaging to their business to apply that blanket rule. So they make exceptions. A key exception is winter sports (skiing and snowboarding). He said these sports were excepted because BA are involved in specifically marketing to winter sports travellers. Reading between the lines of what my contact was saying, the real reason for the winter sports and golf exceptions is that BA simply couldn't handle the heat that would result from stopping carrying ski and golf equipment. The implication is that they think they can withstand the heat from us and the surfers.

3. For the technical among you he told me the maximum dimensions the BA baggage system can handle: fully automated can handle 1000 x 750 x 500 (all mm.). Semi-automated can handle 1350 x 500 x 350. Semi-automated means it gets some of the way on the belt system and then has to be manually handled for the remainder. I pointed out to him that the semi-automated size would allow some board bags to be carried that way. He was unmoved.

4. I advanced various arguments to him as to why they should consider creating a new exception for kiteboards including (a) that we spend a lot of money with the airline, like skiers, (b) that the routes we fly are mostly long haul which are BA's most profitable routes, (c) that we are a great demographic for an airline such as BA being (bluntly) relatively wealthy frequent travellers. He was unmoved.

5. He did say that BA were looking for a "solution" for people who want to travel with outsize bags and were looking for a "partner" who could carry our outsize luggage for us. I said this "solution" would be of no interest unless our boards effectively travelled on the same aircraft as the passenger. No-one is going to be bothered with sending their board out in advance or returning to an airport later to pick it up. It seems clear they are a long way from figuring out what their solution is. The bit of good news (in a temporary sense) is that he confirmed that all BA checkin staff have been instructed not to enforce the new rules until such times as BA makes available their alternative solution. We talked about this for a while so I made sure I understood. My contact was quite clear about this and he said it applied not just to tickets booked before 6 November but also to tickets booked afterwards -- apparently the policy "on the ground" is that you will not be turned away if you have a kiteboard that exceeds the maximum dimensions unless and until BA come up with an alternative solution to carrying them. I asked if they would make this clear on their website and he said no, they would not. I said I would post his reassurance online and he seemed content for me to do so (albeit not naming him) in the full understanding that people would rely on what he was saying when booking tickets.

I think that is all I can say for now.

Good luck with your travelling. May I suggest that if you book with someone other than BA that you email them to tell them so and say it is because of their crappy policy on kitebags. What did come across from my conversation is that BA will clearly adapt their policy if they feel the constituency they would otherwise **** off are powerful enough (skiers, golfers) but we aren't seen as being powerful enough yet.

Customer relations form:
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...m/public/en_gb

If you book BA in reliance of the assurance posted above then good luck with it. He insisted that checkin staff systemwide had been told not to enforce the new policy until they had an alternative but clearly was not going to update BA's website to say that. I am sure you will understand that I personally cannot be held responsible if you act in reliance on this information but end up getting caught out.

Good luck everyone and keep the pressure up.


KS

[Shredder]

There should be a petition on www.petitions.pm.gov.uk as well on this.

Grrrrrrr I booked flights to Portugal about a month ago with BA, going to have to risk it I guess....

[ILee]

If you booked it before ban came into play you are ok. Read that in one of their statements

[surf patrol]

I got sent a press release while I was which I have posted in the news section - Surf's (Still) Up At Virgin Atlantic as BA Bans Surfboards

Here are the main points for anyone not bothered to read.

(passengers) can take one piece of sporting equipment in addition to their checked baggage allowance.

The sporting equipment can weigh no more than 32kg, unless with prior consent, and must not exceed overall dimensions of 62” (width + height + length)

One surfboard to a max length of 2.5m.

So no longboards then ( 2.5m = 8'2" ). It's also interesting that you can take a Kayak / Canoe to 4.5 meters.