Almost done with #0001

[miamisurfer]

No, my stringer was fine.

I shaped it in my carport and am just finishing the rails outside today, probably.

[northswell]

I cant see how you can get a bent stringer either.

Surfboard blanks are usually made by pouring a mixed resin into a mould either by computer or by hand. Generally they make each side of the board then glue the stringer to one side then glue it to the other and they cut stringers out of big sheets of wood so theres bound to be inaccuracies.

Yep I know that
But they are then clamped together, so the only way they can bend is if the bond isn't good enough, so you have some cheap shite on your hands.

The stringer shouldn't "warp", its not made out of big sheets of wood, thats just fleshin', its a ply construction, so should not warp. I used to be a design engineer.

[TicTac]

I cant see how you can get a bent stringer either.

Surfboard blanks are usually made by pouring a mixed resin into a mould either by computer or by hand. Generally they make each side of the board then glue the stringer to one side then glue it to the other and they cut stringers out of big sheets of wood so theres bound to be inaccuracies.

its not made out of big sheets of wood

Isn't it?



May I present to you a picture from homeblown.

[TicTac]

Did you have any problems with the blank like a bent stringer?

WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmmm, perhaps the bend he's refering to is the rocker xs......

How can you possibly get a blank with a bent stringer?
Ive seen custom stringers put into longboards where more than one stringer is used which are bent for asthetics but as for having a blank with a bent stringer......

Im not talking about that big a degree of a bend ks, just referring to it not being perfectly straight....

[northswell]

What i meant was not out of one piece of wood, its typically three of varying thicknesses sandwiched together, that makes it less susceptible to warping.

The construction process doesn't lend itself to bent stringers.

I know what i meant anyway.

[kitesurfer]

I think northswells point is that when you have 2 fairly large blocks of foam which have been cut from one larger block of foam with a staight cut which are used to sandwhich a thin stringer made from wood the construction process itself is what makes the stringer straight.
The stringer does not have the inherent strength to bend the foam blocks, it is forced into being straight when it is clamped in between the two pieces of foam.
However that said if the cut in the foam wasn't straight then agreed the stringer would be forced into a non-straight line.
I have to admit, ive never seen a blank like this but i guess it's possible.

KS

[TicTac]

What i meant was not out of one piece of wood, its typically three of varying thicknesses sandwiched together, that makes it less susceptible to warping.

The construction process doesn't lend itself to bent stringers.

I know what i meant anyway.

Right I understand you now! I think we both know what we mean just can't explain it properly to be honest

As you mentioned yourself though, they can bend if the bond isn't good enough or if it's made of cheap shite.

[northswell]

Thanks KS thats what i was trying to say, but i did it badly.

[TicTac]

Thanks KS thats what i was trying to say, but i did it badly.

Yeah i'm with you now, cheers for the explanation KS!

[tomcat360]

Right,


So are you glassing it or getting someone else to? What about fins?

[miamisurfer]

I'm going to glass it. I was going to drill the holes for the finboxes today, but it looks like it's going to rain. If I can get it done before my shaper finishes shaping my other board then I will have shaped and glassed my first new board(excluding my softop fish).

[miamisurfer]

It's ready to glass, once I figure out what to glass it on.





I already have my first customer, I'm shaping my brother a 6'2''.

[tomcat360]

Looks good, but one thing....

GET THAT STRINGER DOWN!!

If you don't already have one, they sell a small "finger plane" at lowes for like 5 bucks, greatest thing ever. Run that down the stringer on both sides to where it sits as low or lower than the foam. It may tear some foam around, but that happens to all shapers until they get good. You could walk into a shop and probably look along the stringer and see some tearing. It's not a big deal, nothing happens structurally and hardly anything happens visually.

But looks good! Glad to hear you're shaping another already!

[miamisurfer]

If your referring to the third pic. Those are channels along the stringer, I put them there because something had happened( can't remember) but it gouged the foam a little so I made it into channels.

[tomcat360]

Nah I couldn't tell one way or another from the pictures, just putting it out there because it will make glassing a WHOLE lot easier

Good luck dude! Pics during the process and when done!

As for what to glass it on, I have duct taped smaller pieces of 2x4s on to the top of my shaping racks. Whatever is narrow enough so that you can do the wrap, and stable enough that it won't fall off (I've never done that, but it would SUCK!!!) And have everything you will possibly ever need ready!

Again, good luck! I wanna see TONS of pics, and don't forget to sign it!

[miamisurfer]

I just finished laminating the bottom. Laminating is so hard. First there was gusts of wind, not to fast, but enough to displace the glass. I added 10 cc of catalyst into 1 quart of resin, I followed JC Hawaii's glassing tips to use no less than 1% and no more than 2%, it started to kick within 10 minutes. I put the football patches for the finboxes under the main layer of fiberlass and the layer of fiberlass got moved around. Glassing is so hard. I think it came out crappy.

[kitesurfer]

I just finished laminating the bottom. Laminating is so hard. First there was gusts of wind, not to fast, but enough to displace the glass. I added 10 cc of catalyst into 1 quart of resin, I followed JC Hawaii's glassing tips to use no less than 1% and no more than 2%, it started to kick within 10 minutes. I put the football patches for the finboxes under the main layer of fiberlass and the layer of fiberlass got moved around. Glassing is so hard. I think it came out crappy.

Glassing is definately an art. And it does get easier the more you do it. Don't get disheartened. One important thing with the catalyst and something jc doesn't tell you is that yes put between 1 and 2 % but and this is a very big BUT!
In hot weather no-more than 1% and in cool weather then you can up the amount! It makes a huge difference to the time it takes to kick!
If you put 2 % in when its say more than 22 degress then your resin will kick in about 7mins! Especially if you have a quantity in a bucket. Play it say and give yourself more time by keeping the catalyst quantities down! Ive never had one not go off, just make sure you mix it well.
Also preparation! Get everything you need ready before hand out on the table.
Scissors, squeegees, etc and don't forget your safety stuff, fume mask and gloves!

Any questions just ask and im with tomcat, lets see the photos?

[tomcat360]

For the fin patches you can put a bit of resin on them down first and tack them in place. THat will help next time.

Glassing is definately nothing easy, luckily I got taught really well by somone who's a great glasser, so I got the easy way out

It's something that will get better with practice. No worries!

[Real Pol]

Stringer - BLAH
Glass - BLAH
Shaping - BLAH
Rails - BLAH

Miami, the burning question we're all wanting to know the answer to, (but are too shy to ask) is why do you have an incredibly small set of stairs leading up to your bed?


You date little women?

[miamisurfer]

Ha Those stairs are for my dogs. Mini Dachsunds.