gay marriage, your view/opinion on it.

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Postby Stone Fox » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:21 pm

I find the whole concept of homosexuality to be slightly nauseating, and un-natural.

But, at the end of the day it's none of my business, let 'em get on with it.

Does call to mind a joke I heard the other week-

What's the first symptom of Aids?
-A stabbing pain in the rectum.
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Postby hawaiiSUCKSexceptsurf » Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:40 am

MILO wrote:I have no problem with people of the same sex getting married, what i do object to is gay couples who adopt, have they not given up the right to have kids. These kids have come from a broken family, which is very traumatic. Then some middle class do gooder, who is most probly a lesbian hands these kids over to two guys who like to stick there cocks up each others arse :wink:



with civil union and a ceremony i dont see what the problem is, i wouldnt care if someone told me i cant get married, because the ceremony means the same to me and the civil union covers everything else. but i think they should be allowed to adopt. its been shown in studies that a far less portion of gay men commit acts of physical and sexual abuse on children then straight. also, less of them become pedophiles.
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Postby el_timmo » Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:52 am

Gay Marriage: let them do whatever they want as long as I have nothing to do with it.
Public Displays of Affection: Gay or Straight, it annoys me
Gay Adoption: Let me just say straight away, I'm a Catholic and I'm religious. I don't think they should. However, I just know Mr Blair won't see it that way.
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Postby el_timmo » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:03 am

oh and gay funerals: well I don't know much about gay funerals apart from the fact that they're much like straight funerals, except that the mourners follow a certain procedure, which is as follows:

1. Elton John says the eulogy (if Elton John is not available, Lily Savage may stand in)
2. Two statues of Michaelangelo's David flank the deceased
3. Mourners may view the casket with a maximum of 2 minutes per couple (straight couples only get 1 minute)
4. An After funeral gathering is held at the local underground gay nightclub... the only time that straight people are allowed into gay nightclubs. Most of you may not know, but gay people usually carry a gay identity card. If you do not have a gay identity card, you will not be allowed entry into many of your city's trendiest (cause we all know the gays are the trendiest people around) nightclubs
5. 5 men then volunteer to do the YMCA dance as the final farewell to a martyr for the gay cause.



If you have found this in bad taste, I apologise in advance. I did not write this to ridicule homosexuals in any way, I just thought it might be funny to write it.
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Postby Jimi » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:48 am

Hawaii:

I think MILO did NOT meant the adoption of children by gay couples will result in sexual abuse or pedophilia.

I suspect the intent of the comment followed the suggestion that children brought up within a gay household (male or female is irrelevant) will be at a disadvantage compared with children of heterosexual families.

For a start, their father and mother figures will be somewhat at odds with the families of their peers and these children will not be recieving a balanced upbringing. I'm sure everyone will agree that these adopted children will have difficulty reaching a sense of "self" in a house with two fathers and no mothers.
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Postby surfin_daddy » Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:25 pm

before i dig myself into a huge bloody great hole, i have had some beer so if i offend anyone i'm sorry.

right here goes,

i agree people are born gay, and it is there human right to love, fondle, etc whoever they wish, you can't help the way your born.

sidney cook said he was born the way he is and that no matter what happened he could never be cured, for those people who don't know who sidney cook is he is a child molester and murderer, so is it his right to marry, adopt a child, etc, he hasn't turned that way he was born that way!!!!!

what is his human rights?

where do you draw the line?

and no i'm not homophobic!
the more gays in the village the more girls for me wooohoooo
sorry
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Postby hawaiiSUCKSexceptsurf » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:31 am

i just think gay adoption is better that being an orphan. single parents would have those same problems you mentioned. of course nothing is better than a real family, but sometimes these kids dont have that option, and 2 gay guys might be as close as theyll get.

its pretty widely agreed that gayness is not something you decide. but i dont like flamboyent ones. i get asked out by more guys than girls, just because guys are more aggressive. i hate that.
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Postby SoCal WaterSpout » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:00 am

Wow - first I must say right on.

This is the first message board I've been to (and I've been on quite a few for varying topics), and this is the first one where I have found that the majority are in fact not hateful bigots. It's really refreshing.

I myself am not gay, but I have many close friends who are like family to me that are. I have seen first hand how discrimination and bigotry can rip a person apart. A close friend of mine attempted suicide when he was 15 years old because his religion told him he was not worthy, and God did not love him because of who he was. As a Catholic, I can't think of a more disgusting misuse of Christ's teachings.

Sorry if I'm coming off a little strongly, but this is a topic that hits very close to home. It saddens me to no end to see what certain people can do to one another all in the name of hate and discrimination.

So in case I'm not clear, to answer this question - yes gays should be allowed to marry, and yes they should be allowed to adopt. What this a issue that doesn't really affect me since I am straight, it does directly affects people I love and care about, making it still a very personal and emotional subject for me.
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Postby libby » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:16 am

Surfin daddy: intended or not, you didnt exactly just make yourself look great....
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Postby Stone Fox » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:41 am

When I was a teenager, I was really homophobic, but mainly down to bad sterotyping on Tv, the fact that the word 'gay' was an insult at school and the fact I'd never met one.

A few years later I discover a guy I worked with who was really safe was gay, and I realised they are just like normal people! (Except that they suck cock (the males ones that is ))

I don't like the idea of it, but it's really none of my business and I think people should let them got on with it.

HOWEVER,

correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't marriage a religeous thing? And doesn't the bible tell you homosexuality is an offence against god?

(Although I'm sure he doesn't include hot lesbians in that :D )
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Postby libby » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:45 am

Depends, I want to get married but i am completley atheist, would prefer a ceremony with no reference to religion, god etc in it.

Like Sal said i'd just want that commitment from somebody.
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Postby Stone Fox » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:58 am

Libby wrote:i am completley atheist, would prefer a ceremony with no reference to religion, god etc in it.

Like Sal said i'd just want that commitment from somebody.


Snap.

A friend of mine got married recently at a place in Kent called the Mill - completely religeon free ceremony. Although I think by law the person doing the marrying has to be a preist.

If he was he wasn't dressed like one though.
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Postby tomcat360 » Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:43 pm

Stone Fox wrote:
correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't marriage a religeous thing? And doesn't the bible tell you homosexuality is an offence against god?

(Although I'm sure he doesn't include hot lesbians in that :D )


Agreed

The way I see it is that marriage is a religious celebration of the joining of two people as one (which the bible does say man and woman, so there) but it has been made into a leagal insitution by the government, so it becomes confusing. If you are talking about the religious bonding of two people, then I think it's wrong because of what the bible says, but when it comes to the governmental binding of two people through paperwork, I don't care.

That still came across weird on my part :? I didn't mean any harm.
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Postby jethrodog » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:50 pm

I am religious and I have certain views on morality and what I believe is right and wrong. I do not support gays or the gay lifestyle and I believe it to be wrong. But, having said that, one of my wifes and mine really good friends is gay. He and his partner are going to be in Costa Rica at the same time as us and we are going to get together and hang out for a couple of days. I don't "approve" of what he does but that doesn't mean that I can't be friends and love him as such. (although Love is a word I don't really like using in conversation of this topic :wink: ) Everyone does things that aren't approved of by someone else, why should I try to enforce my beliefs on someone else who doesn't want them? Especially because who says that my views are necessarily right? As long as people are happy, so be it.

As for marriage, why do people need a wedding to show their love and commitment? Does the piece of paper prove that they love each other? Does this mean their relationship has been justified and will never be severed? Is commitment only showed through a justice of the Peace and a signed document? I say get married for the religious reason and for the tax breaks. Otherwise, be happy with who you are and who you are with.

Sorry if I did offend anybody, but you gotta admit, this topic will usually only bring out the heavy opinions :D
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Postby bluesnowcone » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:42 pm

no ofence to gays but why?
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Postby Sar » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:54 pm

how do you mean...why have a civil ceremony? or why be gay?
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Postby IdRatherBeSurfing » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:08 pm

el_timmo wrote:Gay Marriage: let them do whatever they want as long as I have nothing to do with it.
Public Displays of Affection: Gay or Straight, it annoys me
Gay Adoption: Let me just say straight away, I'm a Catholic and I'm religious. I don't think they should. However, I just know Mr Blair won't see it that way.


agree with what he said

hawaiiSUCKSexceptsurf wrote:i just think gay adoption is better that being an orphan. single parents would have those same problems you mentioned. of course nothing is better than a real family, but sometimes these kids dont have that option, and 2 gay guys might be as close as theyll get.


agree with this too

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Postby CheeZee » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:04 pm

... damn , you all been getting deep while ive been working !

all ive got to say on the subject is this...

.. " Im not homophobic ...im not scared of my house at all "

:mrgreen:

seriously..ish , " peeps ...the world is pretty fleshed up right now and evolutionary, religous, social and most def political reasons aside! ... "

fleshit' any love is a good thing right now and anyone willing to give love to a child and give it to the best of their ability a safe loving home has gotta be good thing.

On the gay thang .. all funky diva and truck driving jokes aside ..

" feeling safe is one of the many groovy lil aspects to love , so if you feel safe being laid next to another woman or man at night...who the hell is anyone to tell you you cant have that ..

" now goats and family pets , now thats different .. " your just Wrong and one day those people will be found out and will possibly ask you for a character reference for court .. id say possibly within the month but whos to say .. im just saying like .. you know .. " they told the police that the neighbours cat had been heavily flirting for months now .. and they were very drunk .. but thats the sort of thing they would do maybe, you know ... they paid the vet bill and it's recovering from the trauma nicely .. they might say .... they tripped and fell and it was all a big missunderstanding with the camera and the ball of wool found dangling on their whereabouts and all... now thats just wrong and im glad i know of no one , absolutely no-one you've met last summer that would ever do that ..im sure

" can i go now please ... ?




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Postby libby » Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:28 am

Well said Sir Cheeezemeister 8)
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Postby CheeZee » Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:34 am

Thankya Libstar :D
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