Help Fixing a Ding

[SD_FutureSurferBumWOOO]

Hello bras

I was surfing yesterday, and when i came out of the water, i notice this ding on the side of my board. Im new at repairing dings and im not sure what to do. I took it down to k5, and the dude there said that i should have it professionally repaired, or i could do it myself to learn for future dings. I decided that ill do it myself 1. to learn 2. i dont have a lot of money. The ding is:

1. about 1 1/2 inches wide
2. one half went into my board, so there a big crack

The dude at k5 said that i would need to cut the piece out or something?







thanks

[dougirwin13]

Eeek! Cut!?!

Surely you mean trim the loose cloth?

That, yes, but don't cut into it.

As to the rest, please read the Making resin thread... And any number of others. There's also plenty of ding repair guides on the net.

We should probably get that added to the articles from the main page someday...

-doug

[SD_FutureSurferBumWOOO]

Ok, I'd first like to state, that im new at this and i dont want to screw up my board, so sorry if i make people upset with my questions

First, well they were selling a thing that cures in the sun, which is suppose to be very simple that you put on your board.

So, all i would need to do is sand down the part thats sticking out? and make it somewhat smooth.

Then placing several layers of that suncure on it, and finally sanding it down?

If i do that, would it cause future problems, and am i just better off trying to find the cash to have it professionally done?

Thanks

[dougirwin13]

(Doug pulls on his "slapping gloves")...

Kidding!

Suncure is pretty crap stuff. And if you have a crack that has gone through the fiberglass clothe it won't help at all (not on it's own anyway).

If you want to surf it you can just put duct tape over the ding. That'll hold it for a very long time... And when that starts to peel off just replace the tape. Make sure you clean the wax away first, tho That buys you plenty of time until you (a) are up to doing the repair yourself or (b) have the cash to pay someone else to do it.

Ding repairs are often pretty easy jobs. You just want to make sure you know what you are going to do ahead of time.

Basically, in this case, you are going to need to put a patch of fiberglass over the area (overlapping about a 1/2 inch or so) with resin. Then sand and then some more resin... Pretty much like I posted in that link just before.

Where's that leave you?

-doug

[JP1]

Assuming it is not EPS...

Sun Cure is a quick fix for vacations but no good for long term repairs. It is very brittle and always leaks adding further frustrations in the future such as delam and yellow foam.

Repairs are fairly simple after you get the goods.

You Need-
Scissors or razor blade
Clear tape
Q-cell resin filler
resin
and fiberglass
Sand paper easier with electric sander if your careful
or you can buy a complete repair kit from a local shop
Foremost make sure your repair surface is dry. Best way is to let it sit in the sun for a while unitl water stops seeping out of the crack or damages area
Get rid of the old busted parts dont be to afraid of getting into the foam as the Q-cel acts as a foam filler.
Fill in with Q-cel and sand down a little below your plain.
Lay a small piece of 4 or 6 ounce fiberglass over the repair spot and tape down on the edges outside of the repair area
Pour small amounts of resin on the glass and smooth out even with a credit card or I.D. card or something of similar character.
Let thouroughly dry.
carefully pull off tape trying not to pull up any of the laid fiberglass.
At this point it looks like crap but no worries.
Sand down until the surface is the same as it was before.
Repairs are not hard but are time consuming.
If your planning on surfing fora while then learning repair techniques will be benificial.
Good luck
On a side note Make sure the area you do the repairs is ventilated as i get a rediculuos headache from the smell of resin.
Or just pay soeone to do it

[SD_FutureSurferBumWOOO]

First, thanks a lot for your help mate.

Alright, after reading the link over and over again on how to repair dings, im finally getting how to do it.

The only thing that im not sure or is the "* Quickly smooth your cling-wrap over the top and tape down. "

1. What is a cling-wrap, and will it come in the kit?
2. Do i put it on once the solution turns into a jell on my board?
3. how long will it take to harden on a warm summer day in socal?

And with your help and i guess ill read over the instructions over and over again, i think ill be good.

-It never hurts to learn new things, even though it might cost me my board...

Thanks dougirwin13

[SD_FutureSurferBumWOOO]

Alright, sick JP1, Thanks for the help too

[6inch88]

Very good info, thanks!

[kitesurfer]

Cling wrap is just cling film the stuff you fiond in the kitchen for wrapping up your food and grub.
Each ding repair you do will be different and of varying seriousness. So each one will require you to assess it and make a judgement on the best way to tackle it. Some require that you cut out the glass some don't. If in doubt just post up a photo and we'll be offer to some advive. Looking at these photos i would suggest a good sand around the dinged area and fill with resin. You could also add to the resin mix some finely chopped up glass fibre. This will make a kind of resin filler which is just great for fixing dings. I use it all the time. It speeds up the drying time, allows you to build up layers quickly on more serious dings and is very strong.

KS

[rich r]

I highly recommend against using duct tape. Unless you can't afford 20 pound for a proper kit.

As for solarez and other quick-set resins, I've been using them for 25 years on small dings (under 1 inch) and never had a problem. You just have to take your time, make sure you get all the air out, properly cure it, and that's it. It's fiberglass with a catalyst in a bottle.

But, for something like you have, I'd recommend the full fiberglass kit route JP1 stated.

[SD_FutureSurferBumWOOO]

Alright, i promise this will be the last questions of this post

1. When putting the glass cloth over the area, you put that before you add the resin on top, right?
2. If so, do i want the cloth flushed up on the damaged area, so the cloth will have a big bump once it goes up on the crack?
3. The cling wrap (which i have in my house ) is only for making the surface smooth right?

Thanks a lot guys for your help

[SD_FutureSurferBumWOOO]

Got my repair kit today at k5

Im really sorry guys but...

Ok, i know how to do everything, except this kit comes with a repair filler and states " the repair filler is a substance used in place of foam to fill voids." Is my ding deep enough that i would need the repair filler, or can i just skip that step and go on with the laying down of the fiberglass and pouring the resin on it.

-If i do need to put the repair filler, do i put that first in the crack, let it dry, then proceed with the fiberglass ontop of the repair filler, finally adding the resin on top of the fiberglass?

Thanks

[JP1]

Ya your gonna have a bump

Make sure the Q-cel is cured and sand it unitl it is just below level plain.

Then apply fiberglass piece then tape then lay goopie resin.

Let cure and sand until level plain caring not to go all the way through the new laid glass.

Good as new

Note the filler attaches firmly to foam but should not be on top of the existing fiberglass that is undamaged.

When you mix the q-cel it chould be the consistency of yogurt.
When yo lay it it make sure you use more than you need . It sanda fairly easy but stinks because you mix it with hardener and it is basically a refined resin. As mentioned earlier get a hospital mask or something from home depot and you will save yourself froma headache

[dougirwin13]

Yeah, there'll be something of a bump.

The cling wrap does a few things. Most obvious, as you said, is to smooth it out. It also helps compensate if there isn't enough wax in the resin (yes. make sure you stir it well before measuring - but don't shake it). You'll also find the the cling wrap reduces the lump you get in the end (or can).

For a more even, less raised result you can also put tape over the cling wrap.

-doug