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Postby baldie » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:25 am

I don't pee inside the Ocean. I think that's disgusting. I always use the restroom before surfing. I don't know, I guess if you have to go, you have to go.
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Postby FormosanSurfer » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:34 am

baldie wrote:I don't pee inside the Ocean. I think that's disgusting. I always use the restroom before surfing. I don't know, I guess if you have to go, you have to go.


Dude, its the ocean it's fleshin' huge. Pee is the least nasty thing you have to worry about.
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Postby Dec » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:55 am

Lemon sharks are those really small yelowy/brown sharks. They dont really attack humans because at their full zice they r are the size of your leg!

Not such a good test i suppse
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Postby Stone Fox » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:51 pm

Tigers and Makos are what they SHOULD have tested them on - and I'd bet money they'd have gone nuts. How you'd go about catching a full size Tiger shark and keeping it in a tank, I don't know.

Btw, pee is supposed to REPEL sharks. One tried and tested method in the navy, if you have to dive into shark infested waters with an open wound is to piss on the wound first. Even better, wrap it up tightly and piss allover yourself.

Lemon sharks.... Buahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!

Random fact for you - nearly three quarters of shark attacks are tigers and makos, great whites account for something like 5% of attacks but they get the blame anyway because they're BIG and MEAN.
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Postby Broosta » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:08 am

Cool we get Mako's in the North Sea :D ! And I thought we never got anything interesting here!
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Postby baldie » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:36 am

Stone Fox wrote:How you'd go about catching a full size Tiger shark and keeping it in a tank, I don't know.


I mean just find a group of tiger sharks in the Ocean. First, cut themselves and jump into the water. Then, cut a fish and throw into the water. This we can really see how the Tiger sharks will react to the bloods in testing the Myth.

I know they are not going to do that. But, testing on Lemon sharks in a pool does not really prove anything. Lemon sharks don't attack humans anyway.
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Postby baldie » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:38 am

I know we got many tiger sharks in Hawaii. I don't know about Makos...
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Postby Stone Fox » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:58 pm

baldie wrote:I mean just find a group of tiger sharks in the Ocean. First, cut themselves and jump into the water. Then, cut a fish and throw into the water. This we can really see how the Tiger sharks will react to the bloods in testing the Myth.


I think they bloody well should. Imagine some poor flesher with an open cut, on a boat or something and he decides it's safe to swim to shore because he saw that 'mythbusters' thing.

I really hate programs like that. There's a program over here called "brainiacs" which is normally really good, but occasionally they seem to abandon science in the name of entertainment. :?
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Postby Dec » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:17 pm

We have brainiacts 2....but they are the ones that said that pee attracks sharks!!!

Dont get me wrong, but I dont think its anything to worry about. Dont wear special clothing etc...but do cover up wounds and other things. Pee in the ocean..no big deal!
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Postby Stone Fox » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:32 am

hmmm.... Next time someone irritates me I'm gonna tell them to "Go piss on a shark!" :)
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Postby trails surfing » Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:06 am

i don't think i ever said that humans are not attacked. they may not be on the menu, but has any one else ever got a fly in there drink. i know i have and i also know that that was not whati ordered.

everyone is pissed about the lemon shark, but th majority of all shark tests are done a lemon sharks due to theer size and they are easy to get.the physiology of the lemon shark is almost identical to that of a tiger,mako, or great white. what you seem to be forgeting is that when someone talks about an open wound we are usualy speeking of a minor cut, if you are talking about someting that is bleed profusely and the color of the water aroud you is getting red, then we are on a different page. if this were the case i wouldn't be worried about a shark attack but rather the infection that is taking place. second most shark attacks end in a single traumatising, if not deadly bite. this one bite will not fill a shark, i shark will only attack a large pray to eat a large portion of it. a single bite shows that there was a change in the sharks mind somewhere between the bite and the moment it swam away. i wonder what that could be? Jaws does not exist, or any shark that acts in this maner. and the last thing i want to point out is your chance to be attacked, when you factor in the amount of attacks around the world each year, and the number of times all the people in the world go in the water a year, this comes to a number that is less than 0.

if you realy want to know how a tiger shark will react to human blood, get a cup, cut yourself, fill the cup, get a boat, find a tiger shark, poor the blood infront of the shark, see how it reacts, then come back and post your findings. if each of us were to do this we would get a good idea of how they will generaly react to human blood.
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Postby Broosta » Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:12 am

if you are talking about someting that is bleed profusely and the color of the water aroud you is getting red, then we are on a different page. if this were the case i wouldn't be worried about a shark attack but rather the infection that is taking place.

I'd be more worried about hypovolemic shock!

I saw some shark documentary which said that sharks kind of feel things with their mouths and teeth. These incidents where the shark just has one bite and goes away are where a shark detects a thing(man) in the water and wants to see if it is food(a seal), and when the shark realises by testing with a bite that the man is not a seal he goes elswhere looking for the seal.

All these percentages are bollox too. The normal quotes are "we have x% chance of being bitten by a shark". The "we" is an average human being who resides on planet earth. This average person is not surfing in shark infested water. This average includes people who live in cities and go to the beach 1 day a year or possibly never. So by putting yourself in shark infested water massively increases the percentage chance of being bitten, and the more times you enter this water the more the percentages increase. Its still safe odds tho... probably :wink: !
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Postby Stone Fox » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:24 am

surf n snow wrote:if you realy want to know how a tiger shark will react to human blood, get a cup, cut yourself, fill the cup, get a boat, find a tiger shark, poor the blood infront of the shark, see how it reacts, then come back and post your findings. if each of us were to do this we would get a good idea of how they will generaly react to human blood.


Go piss on a shark!
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Postby baldie » Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:57 pm

I wonder what happend if a shark bite your arm off. Are you able to paddle back to the shore with one arm??? I wonder how far can you paddle???
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Postby baldie » Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:00 pm

Broosta wrote:

This average person is not surfing in shark infested water. This average includes people who live in cities and go to the beach 1 day a year or possibly never. So by putting yourself in shark infested water massively increases the percentage chance of being bitten, and the more times you enter this water the more the percentages increase. Its still safe odds tho... probably :wink: !


Although the % is low. But most people don't go to the Ocean often. And for those who do, they are always the same people in the Ocean. The % of risk being attack is probably higher.
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Postby Broosta » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:09 am

baldie wrote:I wonder what happend if a shark bite your arm off. Are you able to paddle back to the shore with one arm??? I wonder how far can you paddle???


You would probably die from blood loss if it was not right in the shorebreak.
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Postby Dec » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:10 am

Bethany hamilton kept it calm and paddled back..with a not much blood left at the end
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Postby bgdkmetzger2003 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:37 pm

hiphopdec wrote:Gues wat I forgot to mention?!?!, sharks ARE atracked to your pee! It has the same chemical make up as blood, therefore, if you pee in the water, its the same as having an open wound!!!

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What!! Are you serious?? My other comment is I see a lot of dolphins when Im out. Im worried that I might not be able to tell the difference between the fins. Also, are you more safe when a lot of dolphins are around??
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Postby fletcher » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:45 am

bgdkmetzger2003 wrote: Also, are you more safe when a lot of dolphins are around??


Dunno about that mate but the first time I seen a dolphin I feckin shat myself :D
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Postby Stone Fox » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:46 pm

fletcher wrote:Dunno about that mate but the first time I seen a dolphin I feckin shat myself :D


LOL!

I bet that put the dolphins off playing with you! :D
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