by WestTexSurf » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:42 pm
by oldmansurfer » Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:18 am
by dtc » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:38 am
by WestTexSurf » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:26 pm
oldmansurfer wrote:That is an interesting conundrum. I think the short one should be good since you are only using it to build paddling strength and endurance. So you need both and that means give equal attention to sprinting and long distances. I imagine you will be really good at turning the board after doing that a few hundred times. You kind of sit on the tail and pull the nose up and pivot around. Probably best to practice that when there aren't any near by swimmers. It's a good idea to learn to stop before hitting the side of the pool because the board is going to wear much quicker if you do. I hear that new surf park should be awesome. Hopefully they will complete it soon. You will most likely benefit from getting/renting a bigger board to use at the surf park but the short one should be easier to learn to turn around and fine to learn to paddle.
by WestTexSurf » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:42 pm
dtc wrote:Agree with oldman - if you are just paddling, then paddling on a shorter board (which is harder) has no downsides. Well, technically a paddle on a short board is slightly different to a longboard if you want to be perfect (in a short board you 'create the hull line' through holding your hand out in front for longer, like a swimmer; on a longboard you dont need to do this as the board creates the hull line). but that is like making a 5% difference and most of us will do much better getting fitter than worrying about that kind of stuff
when you are surfing, then yes a bigger and longer board absolutely. the 8ft wavestorm is a good choice
by oldmansurfer » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:58 pm
WestTexSurf wrote:This park might actually make the sport doable, to an extent, for me. If American Wave Machines gets the wave right, the only thing I'll worry about is how the line up will work!
Thanks again!
by WestTexSurf » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:59 pm
oldmansurfer wrote:WestTexSurf wrote:This park might actually make the sport doable, to an extent, for me. If American Wave Machines gets the wave right, the only thing I'll worry about is how the line up will work!
Thanks again!
...the wave machine removes the difficulty from positioning.
by oldmansurfer » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:39 pm
by waikikikichan » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:26 pm
WestTexSurf wrote: The lanes are 7 ft wide max with one lane being 9 ft. With this in mind would it be horrible to get a 6-7 ft foamie thruster? I was going to go for the 8 ft Wavestorm classic but I'm afraid it'd be too wide for turning in the lanes.
by WestTexSurf » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:57 pm
waikikikichan wrote:WestTexSurf wrote: The lanes are 7 ft wide max with one lane being 9 ft. With this in mind would it be horrible to get a 6-7 ft foamie thruster? I was going to go for the 8 ft Wavestorm classic but I'm afraid it'd be too wide for turning in the lanes.
What's the length of your car ? What's the width of your garage ? Can you do a U-turn in it ? To turn a board in a pool ( or even the ocean ), your going to need more than a foot on each side.
The seat-down, pick up and pivot, turn around is not a first day skill. Usually the newbies do a "egg beater" ( hands spinning ) or hands paddling in opposite turns the board (eventually).
Plus ask anyone of us if they've seen a newbie try to sit and pivot, and then have the board shoot out from between their legs. ( usually hitting the person next to them in the head ). Even trying to hold on with just your stomach muscles while paddling a 6 foot will be hard, rocking side to side, back and forth. Imagine your board ending up in the swimmer's lane. Bonk !!
by waikikikichan » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:43 pm
WestTexSurf wrote:let me know if you have any other ideas for training while away from the ocean.
by oldmansurfer » Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:02 pm
by WestTexSurf » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:36 pm
by RinkyDink » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:36 pm
by oldmansurfer » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:46 pm
by RinkyDink » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:53 pm
WestTexSurf wrote:Follow-up:
I do have a technique question. When I start sprinting I notice my board will turn or wiggle slightly left and right when I am pulling with each arm. Also the rails will dip a bit to the side while pulling with each arm. Is this a sign of bad technique? I do feel I am getting more speed but I don't want to reinforce bad practices.
by WestTexSurf » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:15 pm
oldmansurfer wrote:A little bit of wiggling side to side is ok but I think that wiggling more makes you more likely to get sore ribs after paddling. It would be something to work on trying to keep the board stable as you paddle. Even the pros wiggle side to side a little at times and I think with a shorter board is much more difficult to keep it from moving side to side so I wouldn't get too concerned but how is the turning going?
by WestTexSurf » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:26 pm
RinkyDink wrote:WestTexSurf wrote:Follow-up:
I do have a technique question. When I start sprinting I notice my board will turn or wiggle slightly left and right when I am pulling with each arm. Also the rails will dip a bit to the side while pulling with each arm. Is this a sign of bad technique? I do feel I am getting more speed but I don't want to reinforce bad practices.
I would recommend that you focus on keeping your head up when you practice your paddling. Doing that will absolutely destroy your neck muscles in the beginning, but it really helps in surfing to be able to keep your head up. It will also provide your girlfriend an incentive to encourage you to keep surfing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwFBojLeUt8
by waikikikichan » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:13 pm
WestTexSurf wrote:Probably more of the stabilizer muscles being used to keep my chest, head and legs up.
When I start sprinting I notice my board will turn or wiggle slightly left and right when I am pulling with each arm. Also the rails will dip a bit to the side while pulling with each arm. Is this a sign of bad technique? I do feel I am getting more speed but I don't want to reinforce bad practices.
waikikikichan wrote:Even trying to hold on with just your stomach muscles while paddling a 6 foot will be hard, rocking side to side, back and forth.
by WestTexSurf » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:50 pm
waikikikichan wrote:WestTexSurf wrote:Probably more of the stabilizer muscles being used to keep my chest, head and legs up.
When I start sprinting I notice my board will turn or wiggle slightly left and right when I am pulling with each arm. Also the rails will dip a bit to the side while pulling with each arm. Is this a sign of bad technique? I do feel I am getting more speed but I don't want to reinforce bad practices.waikikikichan wrote:Even trying to hold on with just your stomach muscles while paddling a 6 foot will be hard, rocking side to side, back and forth.
I warned you about that. Grabbing/Holding the board straight using you stomach/core muscles will come in time. That's why it's hard for beginners to paddle short(er) that don't have stability nose to tail.
As for the rails dipping, you just got to keep the torso "quiet" and only thing that moves is from the shoulder out.
Question: How many strokes Average does it take to cross the pool ?
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