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San Onofre Radioactive Waste Meetings

Postby RinkyDink » Tue May 02, 2017 4:10 am

I saw this story and thought it was worth passing on.

http://www.worldsurfleague.com/posts/25 ... te-storage
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Re: San Onofre Radioactive Waste Meetings

Postby Big H » Tue May 02, 2017 5:50 am

I'm not an expert but it would seem that there would be a more suitable, less volatile location where real estate was cheaper (maybe the real estate around that area is toast already.....probably, who wants all of that in their backyard).

Nuclear waste buried next to the ocean in an active fault line area in the shadows of 8.3m people = short term thinking I would venture to say.......


What is the half life of nuclear waste? Oh, here's the answer.....
Radioactive isotopes eventually decay, or disintegrate, to harmless materials. Some isotopes decay in hours or even minutes, but others decay very slowly. Strontium-90 and cesium-137 have half-lives of about 30 years (half the radioactivity will decay in 30 years). Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years.

.....read well until I got to the plutonium.... :shock:
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Re: San Onofre Radioactive Waste Meetings

Postby RinkyDink » Wed May 03, 2017 5:10 am

Big H wrote:I'm not an expert but it would seem that there would be a more suitable, less volatile location where real estate was cheaper (maybe the real estate around that area is toast already.....probably, who wants all of that in their backyard).

Nuclear waste buried next to the ocean in an active fault line area in the shadows of 8.3m people = short term thinking I would venture to say.......

You're right, but there are incredibly tedious issues that make things difficult. Would you be willing to let them transport 3.6 million pounds of radioactive waste along your neighborhood freeway or railroad track, past your daughter's elementary school, your wife's nail salon, and through Orange County or San Diego County to some other community? Oh yeah, and they would be doing that for the next year or however long it takes to move 3.6 million pounds of something, say, 200 miles away. I'm afraid this is one of those issues where cooperation and community understanding are needed. Good luck with that in the era of Trump America.
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Re: San Onofre Radioactive Waste Meetings

Postby oldmansurfer » Wed May 03, 2017 7:48 am

It seems like everyone is assuming there isn't a way to safely store the waste where they want to. I think protests like this just make it all more expensive and raises taxes and don't really accomplish anything meaningful. They are just scared of radiation and are probably the same people claiming significant levels of radiation from Fukushima is bathing the west coast . It's just hysteria. Radiation can probably be stored safely in lots of places. Make them change the place and taxes will reflect it. Still safely stored but costs more.
So what is worse.... dying or regretting it for the rest of my life? Obviously I chose not regretting it.
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Re: San Onofre Radioactive Waste Meetings

Postby Oldie » Wed May 03, 2017 7:54 am

RinkyDink wrote:Would you be willing to let them transport 3.6 million pounds of radioactive waste along your neighborhood freeway or railroad track, past your daughter's elementary school, your wife's nail salon, and through Orange County or San Diego County to some other community? Oh yeah, and they would be doing that for the next year or however long it takes to move 3.6 million pounds of something, say, 200 miles away.


In Europe, this is common practice, and waste had been transported across countries for reprocessing for many years stopped now). But also globally there are plans for international repositories. Security for those nuclear waste trains is a nightmare, but it makes sense to store the waste in the most suitable locations rather than in high risk areas.
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Re: San Onofre Radioactive Waste Meetings

Postby Big H » Wed May 03, 2017 10:58 am

When it comes to an issue like radioactive waste disposal, my opinion is that what I would want or what I would let them do should not be an issue. The government needs to take control of this and make sure that the disposal site is as safe as possible since it will be affecting generations more than ten times further in the future than the amount of time that has passed since Christ walked the earth as a carpenter.

I would't want to preside over those meetings though. Just an opinion from the back row.
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Re: San Onofre Radioactive Waste Meetings

Postby RinkyDink » Thu May 04, 2017 4:22 am

Oldie wrote:
RinkyDink wrote:Would you be willing to let them transport 3.6 million pounds of radioactive waste along your neighborhood freeway or railroad track, past your daughter's elementary school, your wife's nail salon, and through Orange County or San Diego County to some other community? Oh yeah, and they would be doing that for the next year or however long it takes to move 3.6 million pounds of something, say, 200 miles away.


In Europe, this is common practice, and waste had been transported across countries for reprocessing for many years stopped now). But also globally there are plans for international repositories. Security for those nuclear waste trains is a nightmare, but it makes sense to store the waste in the most suitable locations rather than in high risk areas.

Yeah, it does seem that Europeans tend to be a little more sensible when issues involve scientific facts.
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