Dealing With Imperfect Surf

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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby BoMan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:23 pm

dtc wrote:At first I thought the mountain range (peninsula I guess) in the background was the wave and thought 'thats not a wave I want to surf'


It's the Point Reyes National Seashore. :lol:
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While searching for the map, I found some "sharky history" at Dillon. Might have to rethink riding alone. :shock:
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby BaNZ » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:09 pm

It looks like it is close to the rivermouth. Plenty of food for the sharks.
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby BoMan » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:21 pm

Pollution is a deal breaker for me. My wife and I got serious shivers after snorkeling while on vacation near Lahaina. She spent the better part of a week in bed while I stubbornly pushed through. Not fun. :shock:

Several teachers at my school like to ride Pleasure Point in Santa Cruz but it can get bad there and I refuse to go. Checking for bacteria is just as important to me as checking Magic Seaweed.

http://www.surfrider.org/blue-water-task-force
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby Big H » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:06 am

http://www.mensjournal.com/adventure/wa ... u-20150109

Been getting more rain this year than in recent years past....have heard some chat about staph infections; co-worker had to get a boil lanced in his back.

If we really waited 72 hours after a storm to go in the water, we'd surf next around here in May.

Gargle, gargle, gargle.....I'm still doing it, still fortifying the immune system with regular does of staph and e.coli and still haven't contracted anything....genius or more likely the luck of the stupid.....I'll stop when I get sick. :)
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby Soulmancer » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:09 pm

Why not? Reality is wherever you surf you're going to spend the majority of your time in the water paddling... Going out in poor conditions will help make you a stronger paddler and improve your endurance for when conditions are good... plus it improves your timing and wave judgement.
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby oldmansurfer » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:21 pm

Surfing in imperfect surf does way more for you than not surfing
So what is worse.... dying or regretting it for the rest of my life? Obviously I chose not regretting it.
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby Oldie » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:35 pm

oldmansurfer wrote:Surfing in imperfect surf does way more for you than not surfing


Hahaha. Welcome to Windswell Country.

Low pressure with 10°C water and air, 20knots onshore wind. That means there are waves...

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And still you are right :-)
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby RinkyDink » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:59 am

BoMan wrote:While searching for the map, I found some "sharky history" at Dillon. Might have to rethink riding alone. :shock:

Well since you brought it up, here's just about everything you want to know about recent shark attacks in the world. Short version: Stay the hell out of Florida! Go to Jeffrey's Bay instead.

German version: http://prime-surfing.de/wo-liegt-die-ha ... -pid14408/
Long version: https://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/isaf/worldwide-summary/:

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Following long-term trends, continental North American waters had the most [43: 53.1% of world total] unprovoked attacks in 2016. The total of 53 (65.4 of world total) unprovoked attacks in the United States (including ten in non-North American Hawaii) is a decline from the record high year of 2015, which saw 59 unprovoked attacks. There were no fatalities in U.S. and North American waters.

Elsewhere, multiple unprovoked attacks occurred in Australia [15], New Caledonia [4], and Indonesia [2], and single incidents were reported from the Bahama Islands, Brazil, Japan, La Reunion, South Africa, Spain, and Sri Lanka.

Australia's total of 15 unprovoked attacks was a bit higher than the recent five year (2011-2015), average of 13.2 per year, but lower than recent highs of 18 in 2015 and 22 in 2009. Seven attacks occurred in New South Wales, four in Western Australia, two in Queensland, and single incidents were reported from Tasmania and Victoria (see also Australian 2016 Shark Attack Summary). The two fatalities (both in Western Australia) were a bit lower than the country’s recent annual rate of 2.8 per year.

South Africa had but a single unprovoked, non-fatal case this year, making it the lowest contact year recorded since 2008 when no incidents occurred. To put this in context, within the past five years (2011-2015) South Africa has averaged 4.8 incidents and 1.4 deaths per year with annual highs of eight attacks and three deaths in a year, again underscoring the variable nature of the phenomenon in any given year and locale.

As has been the norm for decades, Florida proportionately had most (60.4%) of the unprovoked attacks in the United States and the largest portion (39.5%) of the world’s total; both percentages higher than recent (2011-2015) averages of 49.2%, and 29.0% respectively. The total of 32 Florida bites was a bit higher than the 2015 total of 30 and well above the recent five-year average of 23.8 (which included a recent record low of 11 in 2011), but did not approach the record high of 37 that occurred in 2000. Also following recent trends, Volusia County had the largest number (15) of unprovoked incidents in the state. The number of bites was notably higher than the its recent five-year average of eight attacks per annum but much lower than the record high of 22 such incidents in 2001. The higher number of encounters in this central-east coast county is attributable to high aquatic recreational utilization of the area’s long and attractive beaches and waters by both Florida residents and tourists, including large numbers of surfers, and to the rich nature of its marine fauna. Other Florida counties having bites were Duval (4), Brevard (3), St. Johns (3), Indian River (2), and Flagler, Lee, Palm Beach, Pinellas, and St. Lucie (1 each). Outside of Florida, U.S. attacks were recorded in Hawaii (10), California (4), North Carolina (3), and South Carolina (2), with single reports in Texas and Oregon. Hawaii and California totals were comparable the recent five year averages of eight and five per year, respectively.

Significantly, worldwide there were only four fatalities resulting from unprovoked attacks, producing an uncommonly low fatality rate (4.9%).
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby oldmansurfer » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:57 pm

But sharks seem to stay away from stormy imperfect surf
So what is worse.... dying or regretting it for the rest of my life? Obviously I chose not regretting it.
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby Big H » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:29 pm

Compare Indonesia's total coastline and population with South Africa.....this is shark fin soup fishing country, populations are thinned and wary.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nesia.html
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby DreamSurf » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:17 pm

BoMan wrote:Pollution is a deal breaker for me. My wife and I got serious shivers after snorkeling while on vacation near Lahaina. She spent the better part of a week in bed while I stubbornly pushed through. Not fun. :shock:

Several teachers at my school like to ride Pleasure Point in Santa Cruz but it can get bad there and I refuse to go. Checking for bacteria is just as important to me as checking Magic Seaweed.

http://www.surfrider.org/blue-water-task-force


and where there is polution there is isopods. im a insectophobe. they bite hard. i even stepped on a dead cat corpse with my feet. i only wear my oneils now in northsea. yeah bacteria. i have that lip infection everytime i swim or surf polluted water.
It totally takes my brain and puts it on hold… it just smooths out the static.” – Katrina Del Mar
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby benny » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:41 am

If its over knee high I will surf. For beginners it is hard to get onto a decent wave in bad conditions. But as you get better, surfing bad waves can improve your surfing as much as surfing good waves. Predicting a wave in good conditions is easy, but when the conditions are bad you have to choose the right approach for sections which appear very quickly. This improves your response time and ability to choose the right manoeuvre for the oncoming section
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby BoMan » Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:54 pm

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Bo is flat this week, so I'm going to Stinson Beach, the close out capital of Marin County. Hoping to angle take offs, race down the line and land some foamies, but I'll more likely spend quality time with my old friend...the pit. :woot:
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Re: Dealing With Imperfect Surf

Postby billie_morini » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:38 pm

Comments for BO:
1. Of course, Dillon Beach is sharkey. The sea there is nearly black and you cannot see through it. But, I surfed alone there many years. As they say in Texas, "I ain't scared."
2. Stinson Beach has some good rip tides that make getting out behind the waves very easy. I like the little town, too. Other than these two things, I do not like surfing there.
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