A 5,10 DHD DX1 to a 5,6 CIS Sampler, volume issues?

[JWhite]

Hey guys
I am looking into purchasing a 5,6 CIS sampler to replace my current shortboard a 5,10 DHD DX1. I was wondering will the 700ml or so less volume in the CI make a difference to how it paddles or will it feel just as easy as the DX1?
thanks

[dtc]

If you can tell the volume difference then you are a freak

The different shape, length, rocker, bottom concaves, fin placement, rail shape, nose and tail will make the board feel different. Not a few ml of volume

[JWhite]

If you can tell the volume difference then you are a freak

The different shape, length, rocker, bottom concaves, fin placement, rail shape, nose and tail will make the board feel different. Not a few ml of volume

Sweet thanks, Just wanted confirmation before I dropped the cash

[dtc]

The boards may feel totally different (I don't have personal experience); but it won't be because of the volume ie who knows, but in this case volume is the wrong design element to focus on

[waikikikichan]

You just got that DX1 in May, why are you upgrading so fast ? You should get the Rocket9 over the Sampler.

[icetime]

I've ridden boards the same length and similar volume that paddle completely different, if it has more rocker then expect it to be harder to paddle but if it's the same rocker and has most of the volume in the same area as the other one it should paddle the same, can't say much about riding but that's all I can say about paddling.

[JWhite]

You just got that DX1 in May, why are you upgrading so fast ? You should get the Rocket9 over the Sampler.

Because unfortunately its too big for me I am light and can't control boards like that well in average or weaker surf.

[JWhite]

I've ridden boards the same length and similar volume that paddle completely different, if it has more rocker then expect it to be harder to paddle but if it's the same rocker and has most of the volume in the same area as the other one it should paddle the same, can't say much about riding but that's all I can say about paddling.

Sweet thanks

[waikikikichan]

Because unfortunately its too big for me I am light and can't control boards like that well in average or weaker surf.

Without me searching your older post, can I ask how small and light your are ? I am 5'2" and 120lbs. ( 125lbs. after Christmas dinner )

You had a 5'10" which you used in average/weaker waves. But now looking to get a smaller board so you can control it. You also are concerned if the liter volume will allow you to paddle it the same.
1) Have you tried going with a smaller set of fins on the 5'10" ? Fins make a big difference on how the board performs/reacts to rider input.
2) Going smaller might make it more flickable but you have to more exact on where to be on the wave. A bigger board is more forgiving in that aspect.
3) What do you mean by can't control ? You can not pump it, push the rail down ? You get stuck on the face when taking off ?

[JWhite]

Because unfortunately its too big for me I am light and can't control boards like that well in average or weaker surf.

Without me searching your older post, can I ask how small and light your are ? I am 5'2" and 120lbs. ( 125lbs. after Christmas dinner )

You had a 5'10" which you used in average/weaker waves. But now looking to get a smaller board so you can control it. You also are concerned if the liter volume will allow you to paddle it the same.
1) Have you tried going with a smaller set of fins on the 5'10" ? Fins make a big difference on how the board performs/reacts to rider input.
2) Going smaller might make it more flickable but you have to more exact on where to be on the wave. A bigger board is more forgiving in that aspect.
3) What do you mean by can't control ? You can not pump it, push the rail down ? You get stuck on the face when taking off ?

Hi
To answer your questions I am 5'10 and 130 pounds. I have tried using different fins and return to the same set the futures AM1. When I say can't control I find the board has no drive in weaker yet still surfable waves and when doing hacks I find that the nose gets stuck in the lip. I also find that finishing turns easily and cleanly is hard because of lack of control over the front of the board and the tail pad.

[waikikikichan]

Instead of having to keep adjusting the size of your board, I would just adjust your front hand. You don't need to buy a shorter board to "fit" into the wave, when you can make your current board "shorter", by correctly driving the tail and keeping the nose/rail up. I think if you have the palm of your front hand facing up, it will correct some of the dropping/Bogging of the rail problem you have. Having the palm up instead of down will also aid in the recovery phase coming out of the turn ( as you slam the door shut ).

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Going into the turn, Kelly's palm is down, but at the apex his palm rolls up, rotating the shoulder back, opening the arm and chest to the wave.