Shopping Used Longboards

[RinkyDink]

What do you think of these? Do they look like a good deal? Worth the money? These ads might disappear. You never know with CL.

http://slo.craigslist.org/spo/5576478604.html

http://slo.craigslist.org/spo/5603961180.html

http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/spo/5566982196.html

http://santabarbara.craigslist.org/spo/5553819649.html

[jaffa1949]

Answers for the boards
#1 Not bad a good all round board by a good shaper
#2 I'm a bit dubious about this one , looks like a fairly early NSP which are pretty good boards,also pretty strong, check the dings for being water tight and see if there is water damage.
# 3 Even more dubious about this one, a good performance and basic nose riding shape with the square tail, he mentions dings but doesn't show them, let the buyer beware.
#4 Serious water damage throughout , stress flex marks on the bottom broken nose water damage there and most importantly around the stringer. It will be heavy and only good a a beater board , not worth the asking price!
Aussie expression here that's my two bobs worth!

[RinkyDink]

Thanks Jaffa. I appreciate it. #1 is my favorite, but my gut is telling me that I can find a comparable board for a cheaper price if I wait a little longer. I have one major used surfboard buying rule; if a seller lists a board for more than $100, then they better frickin' strip the wax from the board. I'm not buying a board I can't examine because all its flaws are hidden under wax.

[waikikikichan]

1) I ride Schaper boards. Always works. BUT....... that board might be from the 90's. Glass on sides, don't get it. $290 Little bit high priced.

2) 9'6" Southpoint. Wow ! the carbon in-lay model. Those were over-built so they left out the carbon the next years. Lot of rocker on the nose, really hard to pearl. I used it a lot as a single fin. The side fin system is called MT, that a bolt run from the deck thru. Good very durable board.

3) Ezera. Looks a bit old and overly wide. Price is too high.

4) McCrystal. Brittle glass and stress fractures, board is gone. Plus it's hard to find fins for the Excel system.

[RinkyDink]

1) I ride Schaper boards. Always works. BUT....... that board might be from the 90's. Glass on sides, don't get it. $290 Little bit high priced.

2) 9'6" Southpoint. Wow ! the carbon in-lay model. Those were over-built so they left out the carbon the next years. Lot of rocker on the nose, really hard to pearl. I used it a lot as a single fin. The side fin system is called MT, that a bolt run from the deck thru. Good very durable board.

3) Ezera. Looks a bit old and overly wide. Price is too high.

4) McCrystal. Brittle glass and stress fractures, board is gone. Plus it's hard to find fins for the Excel system.

Thanks WKC. Great feedback. It looks like the Southpoint sold. I'm just gonna keep trolling the ads. I saw a $1000 board for $300 about a month ago, but it was already sold when I responded. The seller bought it, surfed it once, and decided he didn't really like surfing.

[billie_morini]

Rinky,
the nice thing about #1 is that it looks like it comes with a padded, reflective bag. These bags protect boards very well, keep the wax off your car seats and house walls, and are not inexpensive. I'd buy this one, even if it is an epoxy pop-out. #2 is okay. #4 is probably not okay and requires you to place a a large piece of fiberglass on it. You can probably find a better way to spend your money.

Used boards are okay. It's the only way I buy them. I've bought boards from private sellers on Craigslist in San Francisco, Santa Cruz, Ventura, and Santa Barbara. I like to buy long boards in the $300 range. I've paid as much as $375, but that's the high end for me. It must be a very good board. I try to keep it below $350.

[RinkyDink]

Rinky,
the nice thing about #1 is that it looks like it comes with a padded, reflective bag. These bags protect boards very well, keep the wax off your car seats and house walls, and are not inexpensive. I'd buy this one, even if it is an epoxy pop-out. #2 is okay. #4 is probably not okay and requires you to place a a large piece of fiberglass on it. You can probably find a better way to spend your money.

Used boards are okay. It's the only way I buy them. I've bought boards from private sellers on Craigslist in San Francisco, Santa Cruz, Ventura, and Santa Barbara. I like to buy long boards in the $300 range. I've paid as much as $375, but that's the high end for me. It must be a very good board. I try to keep it below $350.

I would probably make an offer on #1 and see if I could get the price down, but I just got my car insurance bill and that has put the kibosh on my longboard dreams for the moment. I definitely take the board bag into account. It's nice to have a good board bag. I've bought those on CL as well. The last one I bought was from a woman who found she had six of them left in her garage. She sold each of them for $20 a piece. I got the last one in the parking lot at Ralph's.

[billie_morini]

WTF, Rinky. About 40% of the drivers in our wonderful state do not carry automobile insurance. Why should we?!
And another thing! DMV really gave my 16 yr old nephew from Germany the run-around last year. He came to live with me. Of course, due to some new regulations, he'd been licensed in record time if he didn't have a passport and arrive legally. Our state gov't taught us it may be better to lie.

[Big H]

Our state gov't taught us it may be better to lie.

Governments have been teaching that for a long time.... :lol

[RinkyDink]

WTF, Rinky. About 40% of the drivers in our wonderful state do not carry automobile insurance. Why should we?!
And another thing! DMV really gave my 16 yr old nephew from Germany the run-around last year. He came to live with me. Of course, due to some new regulations, he'd been licensed in record time if he didn't have a passport and arrive legally. Our state gov't taught us it may be better to lie.

Pretty soon the cops will kidnap our loved ones and will force us to pay a bribe to a multinational insurance company/investment bank conglomerate to get them released. The US is not much different than any other corrupt country these days, but we like to think we are.

[billie_morini]

rinky,
your post dated Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:08 am: can't argue with this insight.

[Big H]

The US is not much different than any other corrupt country these days, but we like to think we are.

I know it feels good to say it, but living in the US, Australia, NZ, UK or other first world locales where human rights are actually considered, laws are upheld and there is accountablity is a WORLD away from a corrupt third world reality. It is just a different story......

http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/intern ... -complaint

http://www.smh.com.au/world/the-dark-si ... 3d2x2.html

http://www.insideindonesia.org/defending-murder

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mark-ipaviz ... jdoio.html

http://www.humanrights.asia/resources/j ... to-torture

[Big H]

You know what happens here if there is a car accident between a car and a motorcycle? Insurance doesn't begin to cover it.......

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/print ... es-nugroho

[RinkyDink]

rinky,
your post dated Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:08 am: can't argue with this insight.

I actually need car insurance for one of my jobs. Car insurance is a racket though. Consumer Reports all but said that trying to shop for insurance is almost pointless. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/car- ... 0insurance I don't mind paying for insurance; I would prefer it if the state just guaranteed car insurance companies a certain percentage of profit and capped that profit margin-- like a utility monopoly. Anyway, as far as the kidnapping/bribe system goes, the US has already seen variations on it. In fact I'd argue that the whole privatized prison system lends itself to corrupting the US justice system even further.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal

As far as I'm concerned, those two judges should have gotten life in prison in a state prison.

[RinkyDink]

The US is not much different than any other corrupt country these days, but we like to think we are.

I know it feels good to say it, but living in the US, Australia, NZ, UK or other first world locales where human rights are actually considered, laws are upheld and there is accountablity is a WORLD away from a corrupt third world reality. It is just a different story......

http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/intern ... -complaint

http://www.smh.com.au/world/the-dark-si ... 3d2x2.html

http://www.insideindonesia.org/defending-murder

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mark-ipaviz ... jdoio.html

http://www.humanrights.asia/resources/j ... to-torture

I don't disagree with you. However, when first world countries are mired in their own corruption, engage in injustice themselves, and ignore other first world countries' illegal practices, it essentially legitimizes the corruption you're pointing out in your own country.

http://shanghaiist.com/2016/03/22/indon ... ishing.php

I don't see first world countries taking a hard line against China's piracy or Saudi Arabia's export of terrorist ideology around the world. So why would third world tyrants question their own corruption or attempt to reform? When the example of the rule of law in first world countries is as tawdry as it is today, is it any wonder it is so difficult to bring about reforms in smaller countries? Corruption is the status quo.

The US hasn't exactly been good for the people in your part of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia ... East_Timor

--snip--

A year earlier, in December 1974, United States Secretary of State Henry Kissinger had been asked by an Indonesian government representative whether or not the US would approve the invasion.[68] In March 1975, US Ambassador to Indonesia David Newsom, recommended a "policy of silence" on the issue and was supported by Kissinger.[69] On 8 October 1975, a member of the United States National Security Council, Philip Habib, told meeting participants that "It looks like the Indonesians have begun the attack on Timor." Kissinger's response to Habib was, "I'm assuming you're really going to keep your mouth shut on this subject."[70]

On the day before the invasion, US President Gerald R. Ford and Kissinger met with Indonesian president Suharto. The United States had suffered a devastating setback in Vietnam, leaving Indonesia as the most important ally in the region. The US national interest "had to be on the side of Indonesia," Ford concluded.[71] According to declassified documents released by the National Security Archive (NSA) in December 2001, they gave a green light for the invasion. In response to Suharto saying, "We want your understanding if it was deemed necessary to take rapid or drastic action [in East Timor]," Ford replied, "We will understand and not press you on the issue. We understand the problem and the intentions you have." Kissinger agreed, although he had fears that the use of US-made arms in the invasion would be exposed to public scrutiny, talking of their[who?] desire to "influence the reaction in America" so that "there would be less chance of people talking in an unauthorised way."[72] The US also hoped the invasion would be relatively swift and not involve protracted resistance. "It is important that whatever you do succeeds quickly," Kissinger said to Suharto.[73]

The US also played a crucial role in supplying weapons to Indonesia.[71] A week after the invasion of East Timor the National Security Council prepared a detailed analysis of the Indonesian military units involved and the US equipment they used. The analysis revealed that virtually all of the military equipment used in the invasion was US supplied: US-supplied destroyer escorts shelled East Timor as the attack unfolded; Indonesian marines disembarked from US-supplied landing craft; US-supplied C-47 and C-130 aircraft dropped Indonesian paratroops and strafed Dili with .50 calibre machine guns; while the 17th and 18th Airborne brigades which led the assault on the Timorese capital were "totally U.S. MAP supported," and their jump masters US trained.[74] While the US government claimed to have suspended military assistance from December 1975 to June 1976, military aid was actually above what the US Department of State proposed and the US Congress continued to increase it, nearly doubling it.[73] The US also made four new offers of arms, including supplies and parts for 16 OV-10 Broncos,[73] which, according to Cornell University Professor Benedict Anderson, are "specially designed for counter-insurgency actions against adversaries without effective anti-aircraft weapons and wholly useless for defending Indonesia against a foreign enemy." The policy continued under the Carter administration. In total, the United States furnished over $250,000,000 of military assistance to Indonesia between 1975 and 1979.[75]