by maxwolfie » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:02 pm
by drowningbitbybit » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:25 pm
by dtc » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:22 am
by maxwolfie » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:35 am
drowningbitbybit wrote:Just a suggestion... don't get too dead-set on a fish. Hold on to your mini-mal for just a little bit longer, and see if you can try out a few different boards.
I'm not really convinced that fishes work for big buys (or at least don't feel nice) as they end up being a bit too long and you end up with a 'fishy mini-mal'. Also, fishes also tend to do slower carving turns (not as bad as a mini-mal though) so it might not help you out that much.
For someone your height/weight, experience and the beaches you're surfing, maybe you should think about getting a big shortboard (funboard, fatboy, whatever you want to call it). Something 6'10ish maybe, and with some volume, will get you into waves like a fish, but may be a better intermediate before going for a "real" shortboard (at 6'2, you'll probably only want to go down to 6'6 anyway).
But have a go on a fish, obviously
dtc wrote:Firewire Addvance 6ft10 or 7'2 - or something like that (Grant Miller waterskate?).
Anyway, I do think - as DBB said - that you should head into a board shop and demo a board of the type you are thinking of. You may discover that its a bit beyond your abilities or may not. After 15 surfs there is still so much to learn, so many different conditions to surf in, bigger waves etc
by still-learning » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:20 am
by maxwolfie » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:39 am
still-learning wrote:Hi Maxwolfie (Welcome to the site), heed the advice from the chaps above, they know what they are talking about. I also believe you will struggle on a shorter board, having said that, if you are prepared to go through a "frustration" period in your development, then by all means get the board you want. Remember, as a beginner, you need length and volume to assist in wave catching & stability etc.
Good luck and let us know what you decide to go with. Also posting pics of the new stick would be more than welcomed!
by Dantastic1985 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:15 pm
by still-learning » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:31 pm
by dtc » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:37 pm
by IB_Surfer » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:42 am
by drowningbitbybit » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:20 am
dtc wrote:Don't go for a retro fish
themathteacher wrote:So, go retro
by dtc » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:53 am
by IB_Surfer » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:30 am
by maxwolfie » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:49 am
This is a new model for 2009. It has more volume than the Flying Fish, and size for size, it is ¾" wider. It has been designed for surf in the 1' – 4' range and it excels in poor surf conditions.
Features:
added width, thickness and flatter rocker than the Flying Fish model, for performance in small waves;
a full nose with a low entry rocker for planing speed and ease of catching waves;
a single to double concave bottom with an accentuated V like spine in the double concave which gives it an easy rail to rail transition;
a double wing swallow to reduce the tail area which allows for quick direction changes and assists rail to rail transition;
a swallow tail for bite and holding power through turns.
Even though this is a wider fish, it is still designed to surf from rail to rail and can turn a small sloppy surf session into a ton of fun.
The standard fin setup is an FCS 3 fin thruster however it may be custom ordered with a Super Twin set-up of 2 FCS twin fins plus an FCS rear stabilizer fin OR an FCS Quad set-up. The size range is from 5'8" up to 7'2".
This is a new fish model for Summer 2010 / 2011 designed to make 2'-4' surf fun. It has less rocker and more width and thickness in the nose than my other 2 fishes ( Flying and Puffer). Like the other 2 it is a performance oriented fish and has been designed to surf rail to rail.
Features:
More thickness in the first 12" of the nose to improve floatation and paddling
No wings, which increases the tail area, which helps to keep it gliding in small surf
Low nose rocker for planing over dead sections
A single-to-double concave bottom with a pronounced spine on the stringer through the tail to give it a V-like feel which helps the board go from rail to rail
A slight deck roll resulting in increased volume in the rail to stop it sinking in small surf.
There are 3 options for the tail shape:
stock as a no-wing swallow tail
a wing-swallow
a wing-diamond.
Even though this is a wider fish, it is still designed to surf from rail to rail and can turn a small sloppy surf session into a ton of fun.
Standard fin set-up is FCS 3 fin Thruster but can be custom ordered as a Twin Fin with Stabiliser, or with 5 sets of plugs to give you the Quad / Thuster option.
The size range is from 5'6" up to 7'0".
by dtc » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:17 am
themathteacher wrote:Hi dtc, I didn't even read the your post, I usually give advise without following the thread LOL.
Yeah, the modern fishes are way better performers, but retro's are way better paddlers, which begginers need. I used mostly modern fishes until recently, I got a higher volume shortboard and got rid of my modern fish, kept the retro as my small wave board.
Here is my my retro in action in mush waves (disreguard the big guy on it): https://vimeo.com/59964718
by maxwolfie » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:34 am
dtc wrote:themathteacher wrote:Hi dtc, I didn't even read the your post, I usually give advise without following the thread LOL.
Yeah, the modern fishes are way better performers, but retro's are way better paddlers, which begginers need. I used mostly modern fishes until recently, I got a higher volume shortboard and got rid of my modern fish, kept the retro as my small wave board.
Here is my my retro in action in mush waves (disreguard the big guy on it): https://vimeo.com/59964718
So at Sunset Cliffs you are literally surfing in front of the cliffs? I presume its a rocky/reef bottom out there. Looks interesting.
I had understood that retro fishes were designed to surf very short (shorter than a shortboard) and were more for smaller waves (but have generally been overtaken by the pod/dumpster style boards).
To Max - I had looked at the pufferfish myself not too long ago and thought it would be a good board for a beginner to intermediate. Out of the two, its definitely the one to go for - the other one is for bigger surf and higher performance. And everyone has told you to go longer, including the surf shop guy so we will still suggest going for the 7ft 2...and, unless you are a freak, you are not ready for higher performance boards.
Have a go with your instructor's board and see what you think. Any new board takes a few goes to get used to, but it will give you an idea.
by IB_Surfer » Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:18 am
dtc wrote:
So at Sunset Cliffs you are literally surfing in front of the cliffs? I presume its a rocky/reef bottom out there. Looks interesting.
I had understood that retro fishes were designed to surf very short (shorter than a shortboard) and were more for smaller waves (but have generally been overtaken by the pod/dumpster style boards).
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