The new surf movie 'Scumbag'

[k mac]

wtf

oh and roy it seemed to me that some longboarders on there 'unfunctinal' boards seemed to be going as quick as if not faster than you what happend

[Guest]

Somebody start a new poll.
Is Roy Stewart full of sh_t?

I'd vote :->

[Phil]

wtf

oh and roy it seemed to me that some longboarders on there 'unfunctinal' boards seemed to be going as quick as if not faster than you what happend

can you please explane to me what the point of that video was other than you droping in and snaking people as for speed i think this video proves that your boards dont go faster than other modern longboards

[Roy Stewart]

wtf

oh and roy it seemed to me that some longboarders on there 'unfunctinal' boards seemed to be going as quick as if not faster than you what happend

can you please explane to me what the point of that video was other than you droping in and snaking people as for speed i think this video proves that your boards dont go faster than other modern longboards

No.

But next time you see a Ferrari cruising down the street looking for a parking place then I suggest that you go up to the driver and say: "I think that this proves that your Ferrari is no faster than any other modern car"

Just let the old penny drop . . .it's been sitting there too long.




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[Phil]

ok then roy lets see a video of you doing 35mph + on one of your boards :roll:

[Roy Stewart]

ok then roy lets see a video of you doing 35mph + on one of your boards

Well I have already given you 27mph or so on a couple or three waves on some of our video clips. . . it's no great feat and isn't really that fast. I have definitely gone much faster on my X-15 and the old 10'4" 'thrusterbuster', but we didn't have a camera until recently, and both those boards are now spoken for.
The next board which I am going to be riding is my seventeen footer (I broke it about 14 months ago and it has been rebuilt), which will be interesting because it is a board which can cover a great distance in a short time. The big singlefinned pintail is really good at maintaining a high average speed, and it is deceptively fast (just like the fat guy in the detective novel who moves with surprising speed) in terms of top speed also because it is so stately that one doesn't at first realise how fast it goes.
Anyway I will be back in the water in a few weeks time and hopefully will be able to come up with some respectable gps readings from the big 17 with video of the actual waves also.
BTW I have done my homework and I am in a very good position to judge the characteristics of the boards which I build in comparison with other boards. I was a rider of shortboards for the first 22 years of my surfing life and lived on the point at Raglan for quite a few years so go ahead and take the Mickey out of me if you want to (I don't mind), but don't assume that you won't get egg on your face if you kep rolling those emoticon eyes too often!



PS The seventeen footer is the board in the 'Leviosa' video clip.

[surferdude_scarborough]

dude roy using gps to measure your speed is rubbish. by that logic i can hit 500+mph sat on my lazy ass. id have to be in a plane but id still be travelling at 500mph according to the gps despite the fact that im not actually moving.

[Roy Stewart]

dude roy using gps to measure your speed is rubbish. by that logic i can hit 500+mph sat on my lazy ass. id have to be in a plane but id still be travelling at 500mph according to the gps despite the fact that im not actually moving.

What on Earth do you mean? I am talking about surfing speed not flying speed . . . a gps unit will actually give a fairly accurate measurement of surfing speed.

You appear to be trying to say that actual speed is irrelevant, and that it is a sensation of speed which counts.

If so I must point out that the mere sensation of speed will not help you to make a section, and that actual speed is the only way to do this.

You describe your 'ass' as being lazy. I can't comment on that but your thinking appears to be a tad sluggish.

Just remember that it's all good, and it's all part of the wonderful world of waveriding!

[surferdude_scarborough]

no whaty im saying is that some of th speed on the gps will be the speed at which the wave is trravelling not how fast your board is moving. your speed through the water is different because the water is moving as well as you so the gps thingy takes the combined speed of you and the wave.your actual speed through the water is surely just the difference between your total speed and the speed of the wave you are travelling on? if you go at the same speed as the wavee then the gps reading will be just what the wave is hitting. thats where the sitting on my ass doing 500mph thingy comes in.if i decide to walk to the front of the plane to take a whizz if i measured my speed for this period of time then it would read the speed i was walking plus however fast the plane was going.

[Roy Stewart]

no whaty im saying is that some of th speed on the gps will be the speed at which the wave is trravelling not how fast your board is moving. your speed through the water is different because the water is moving as well as you so the gps thingy takes the combined speed of you and the wave.your actual speed through the water is surely just the difference between your total speed and the speed of the wave you are travelling on? if you go at the same speed as the wavee then the gps reading will be just what the wave is hitting. thats where the sitting on my ass doing 500mph thingy comes in.if i decide to walk to the front of the plane to take a whizz if i measured my speed for this period of time then it would read the speed i was walking plus however fast the plane was going.

The water in the wave doesn't move laterally until the wave has broken.

[surferdude_scarborough]

then how the hell does it get the the shore

[Roy Stewart]

then how the hell does it get the the shore

It's all in wave motion 101.

The wave moves horizontally but not the medium through which the wave moves (which moves up and down )Once the wave breaks the part of the wave energy is converted into horizontal water movement.

[surferdude_scarborough]

please dont give me a lecture about how water travels in circles in waves coz i do know that but if there was no lateral movement at all then surely the waves would not propogate (however its spelled) from were they originate. a wave is a way to transfer energy without transfering matter so when i wave moves in a direction there will be water moving in circles but the energy pulse which created it has velocity and its that energy pulse that you surf on so therefore some of the waves velocity is in your gps reading.

[gulfsurfer]

cool man

[Rusty44]

hmmm 27 mph? when im on a motor scooter and i hit lets say 25 mph, i KNOW thats not the speed when im surfing.. so i wouldnt think that ur hitting 30 when the people in big wave surfing need to be going like 40...

[Roy Stewart]

hmmm 27 mph? when im on a motor scooter and i hit lets say 25 mph, i KNOW thats not the speed when im surfing.. so i wouldnt think that ur hitting 30 when the people in big wave surfing need to be going like 40...

It is not necessarily the case that you surf as fast as I do !!!

27 mph is a conservative speed easily attained on a chest high wave with suitable equipment.

Surfing speed is limited only by the lift/drag ratio of the board and the length of the ride. Wave size alone does not determine surfing speed.

Surfers tend to get very emotional about board length numbers greater than 12 and speed figures higher than 20. Don't fall into this trap because I have done my homework and happen to know what I am talking about.

[gulfsurfer]

Hey Roy, i bet if you soaked your pink wet suit in some KY jelly, then you could glide right through the wind, and reach speeds of....]
ONE MILLion MILES PER HOUR!!!!

[k mac]

[Roy Stewart]

Reducing air friction is a helpful thing to do if you want to go fast, but it is friction between the water and the board which is the main source of drag and thus the main impediment to high speed.
Reducing skin friction via aerodynamic lift is a feasible possibility, so peraps if the pink wetsuited rider were to be fitted with a pair of tiny pink wings, then a reduction in wetted surface area could be ahieved if the wings were angled 'just so'.
the KY jelly theory is of course Bunkum.

[gulfsurfer]

hmmmm.....