Nose-dive problem

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Re: Nose-dive problem

Postby Hang11 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:09 am

Nice looking board Roy.

Have you got any side on shots showing the rocker?
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Re: Nose-dive problem

Postby Roy Stewart » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:46 am

RJD wrote:I Guess I'll see RG out around chch on the Salmon and see what I think, didnt get a chance on the olo that you sent round.

Still not sure your answeer to a guy struggling with a takeoff is buy a 12ft plank you made is the right one.

Theres plenty plenty people manage to ride mals and noseriders perfectly well without planting the nose, which kid of points to technique.





I didn't suggest a 12 foot board, or a board which I have made, I merely suggested two design elements which would help and which can be applied to boards of any length, as they frequently are already with shortboards.

The kind of board I am talking about can be loosely described as an oversized 70's singlefin type at least as far as the hull shape goes , there are a few around now known as california cruisers, and they are very nice surfboards compared with mals in my opinion.

Mals are boards which are handicapped by the surfing equivalent of a rating rule.

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Re: Nose-dive problem

Postby Roy Stewart » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:57 am

Hang11 wrote:Nice looking board Roy.

Have you got any side on shots showing the rocker?


Thanks, here are some shots which showing the rocker reasonably well, the tail ( which is 8 and a half feet long ) has an extremely low rocker, the nose has more rocker curve in it:

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Re: Nose-dive problem

Postby Hang11 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:48 am

It doesn't look like it's got as much rocker as the hikoi one?

what's the reason behind that? Is it more of a specific design for chch conditions?
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Re: Nose-dive problem

Postby Roy Stewart » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:51 am

Yes it's a lower rocker and also the rocker and planshape apices are forward at 30% aft which concentrates the rocker curve in the nose. The FP designs like the Hikoi board have the apices at 50% aft which gives a more even arc to the rocker. The tunnel finned boards much prefer the flatter tail rocker, they are faster paddlers and better at making long sections on softer waves than the FP, so yes they are more suited for Christchurch waves that's what RG felt. Moving the apices forward packs more useable rail and tail into the length. They can handle the juice as well though.
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Re: Nose-dive problem

Postby MaryJeanOcsan09 » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:26 am

phillwilson wrote:Hi Roy,

Thanks for adding in that extra info, was great to see a vid of you in action too. that board is HUUUUGE, how much does it weigh? wouldn't ever want to get in your way!!

hey bet getting a board bag is tricky..do you contact a tent maker?

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It is truly a good idea to order board bag from Event Tent makers. Aside from the quality of the canvass they are using, you are also sure that the threads are sewn perfectly. You can always ask tent sellers if they can also customize the design and prints of the board bag.
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Re: Nose-dive problem

Postby garbarrage » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:39 pm

here's a longboard with a pointed tail and a decent bit of rocker


at the risk of a flaming,for us mere mortals, choppy conditions can be overcome with enough skill.
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Re: Nose-dive problem

Postby KUROMAGURO » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:15 pm

Just an update on the situation. I've had much more success through keeping with it. Learning more about the waves and conditions has helped me realize when to angle more and less. I now rarely have the nose dive problems as before. Good thing I didn't listen to replies about the board being a "dog" and stuck with it!
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Re: Nose-dive problem

Postby RJD » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:31 am

but.... but... Roy knows best lol....
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