drowningbitbybit wrote:Nettinoo wrote: maybe you need to get off the fence and make people listen.
Perhaps you and Larky need to consider the possibility that people here aren't sitting on the fence.
You're not the first people to notice that something's up.
what he said.
Larky, I strongly suggest that you use the search function and look at some of the previous threads on this topic. again you seem to be seeing the issue as entirely polarised; people either entirely agree with you or are wrong/ignorant/dont care, are you quite young?
Whilst you have a notion of the problem facing this planet you are not the first. You are the only the person who is showing ignorance in your assumption of other peoples stances on the subject, you assume that because you ruffled a few feathers you're right and really shaking things up around here

I like debate but not argument - it polorises opinion and prevents progress and learning in my opinon. People could just not read/respond to what you have to say but its not really the point of a forum is it!?
I care, I do my bit but I could most definately do more to reduce my driving. It is against my morals and values to be needlessly wasteful and damaging to the planet but the key word here is need everything can be justified - what I define as a need vs a want may be very different to others. To lecture or think myself better would be extremely arrogant. And I will not put up with the local surf breaks cos bmth is a bag of shite imo. Yes I am planning to move but this thing called life and my commitments to other people are slowing that down.
Other than surfing your local break only what do you do to reduce your impact on the environment? and indeed make a positive contribution to it. SAS are organising litter picks at the moment - unfortunately Im working.