Artificial Reef Project

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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:13 am

Na Roy & others,

I'm over this; it's just slactivism, trying to do something constructive- or at least raise a red flag or two for those yet to be affected by an artifical reef.
Each & every person who has approched me seems to think it'll be different for them & their location. Consultants break out the planner-speak as they talk down to me, Council officials from other countries pondering them seem to know everything - yet they're never even seen a reef let alone an artifical one...it's just nonsense... and they just don't want to know.

I've never been anything other than objective with my comments & observations, even now several years later I catch myself sitting on my old pushbike at tay Street, staring out to sea like a meercat, wishing it to work. The right swell, the right wind...but it just never bloody happens. It just sits there like a series of half filled giant sausages, being a boating & surf-lifesaving hazard for everyone in proximity. The simple truth is not one successful artifical reef has ever been completed anywhere on this planet. Unless you include the ones perfectly created in a controllable wave-tank several mins drive out of Raglan. Or in their computer modeling...

I now just avoid that section of beach - better bars up my end anyway.
Oh, you're going to get your wish shortly too, outdoor showers and a discrete, low-profile clean toilet block. Very soon :-)

Regards, B.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:34 am

Has anyone else read the brevard county reef study ?

The one that finally once and for all "debunked" the myth ( supplier concieved and propagated like something that grows out of "cow pats!! )

that up to 40 times the cost of an ASR is returned over its 25 year life?

Brevards well researched and mainstream professional studies show its 0.33 of the reef cost is actually returned as a benefit over that time. asr and co in their usual behaviour have called on the towns grommets and kiddies to "protest". ( chuppa chops al ruund from kiirii)

The reality being like every known marine construction over the time of records (and artifacts found further back) the sea demands and takes from anything within or near its realm. So that brings in a big cost function called "maintenance" .

This maintenance thingy is how the worlds marine construction professionals survive day by day -the bulk of their work is made up of it. so ... myth finally BUSTED... porkys been told and we know who by...

I read the funniest thong on the bournemouth blogs (echo) and it is about everyone world wide should be warmed of kiwis selling stuff to the kids on the beach - "beware of geeks bearing gifts' - its no longer boiled sweets and loollies they have under their trenchcoats -(no it not happy to see you .. i hope..) its "sweeteners" for the grommets to enlist them as wavereef cadets to help with getting 10 reefs in 1o years and 100 reefs in the next ten. (personal audiences for real asr supporters are guarenteed ... just dont go to a kb dinner party)

(meade wants sooo much to pleaase kiiry)

then on another blog there is some suggestion of black, meade and a very innovative aussie business guy peter foster seperately kicked out of fiji because of resorts scams and artificial surfing reefs ( asr wanted to own cloudbreak after they "remodeled it in a likeness of kerry himself ?) I think it was foster that ran around fiji in his undies with 60 minutes chasing him

- thats now on the cards for the other two "scallywags" except black will undress in front of the camera as he does for his dinner guests using his "body language " to invite them for a spa. (actually happened for his dinner guests that included a reporter -not really a problem but one should warned at the door " host is inclinded to undress in front of guests without warning " this is the dude chasing grommets for their "interest" in 'reefs"? uuuh??

nero and caligula ( you know what i mean) are being followed and monitored constantly so that they may be properly served their "burn notices"

go figure

echo again reported that

the man from asr said that there had been no price hikes since the last one ( i'm still trying to make sense of that) , the surf has already improved even that the reefs not finished - and they are so "shocked" that anybody would think they dont finish their work -tsunami fund gouging to do or not.

(we havent quit the job since the last time we did! fair go)

its a sad little set of people that think they can keep everybody distracted by that sort of drivel - but i gotta say its a problem trying to make a sensible statement , intent and meaning out of "i havent charged you any extras since the last time i did" (does that give me any comfort as a council?) heck no -i think the person that said that needs a full body and internal search!

wheres matildas headmistress when you need her?

its like..... did that guy just suggest that i am braindamaged , a halfwit and incapable of thinking without getting a head ache or what?

oh the last time i paid an extra - yes you havent charged me again since the "last time" -but when you do the statement will still hold up as the last time will be the next time and the time before that will be the last time one time ago - so full of innovative spin commercial sense and plain accurate acounting.

far out! where are the gloves and hold him steady please theres something wrong here 10/10 and thats the first thing we customs guys look out for - unusual reasoning that distracts from whats really going on. ( 10/10)

hey . (you know what i mean) thut bag is a bit hiivy isnt it? open a new pack of gloves christie!!

(hurry up order your reef as the town next to you want theirs to be the first on 'on the block" who else uses slang like ' here for the long haul , .. we know them all .

Now trawling thru expired patents for ideas we have a new wavepool or "box" up and give your credit card details scam underway - yes the wavebox is a dig it up , dust it off -lick of paint "new invention " (not) greg weber of au surfboard fame let his inventions patent lapse -why because all the commercial reasons that its new promotors say are its strengths are in fact the real weakness's that mean it fails 1 out of 10 for sucess prospect.

what the heck ? what would its inventor know??

good one asr "commercial managers" - please just declare everything at customs to say free .

its not nice inside and they dont use gloves.

(can you see a hat full of titles at the door and take a title as you go somewhere?? )
wut wall ah bee tday - bill gates might be nice change to have people put roses in my path.

bournemouth folk call them "toytown"

get this knee height swells will be transformed into overhead barrels by the reef - the new barrels will score 5/10 where the pipeline is 8/10 and the drivel rating is 10/10.

meade did his high school diploma based on that??? ( back to tech mate and dont come out untill someone else than you marks your exam papers).

tell the the examiner that the student was to fail him did we (whilst peeking) anyway the ocean has waves and the el nino can change things -thats a good tip for question 3 when you go back for reaccreditation and redesign the meades mount reef ( but soory maybe the real science of things just cant afford your "re-education , oops lets take up a collection for gloves for shory to keep ahemm on his tight little body. (dont forget the gloves shorie )


they will experience waves twice as many times for surfing and the waves will be twice the size - a new term has been coined for the benefit of ASR and the words is called "waveiagra" -the ocean will respond with aquaerections from knee height to overhead water erections. ( kblacks grant record will do that every time)

how is such self stimulation given any time or attention , let alone money??

so they all wait for the waveaigra to kick in ( asr's commercial manger has gromets already telling him it has.. on an uncompleted base layer) and lol, rof hes told everybody to "dust off their boards " as the sessions are "cumming" - i think he must have been talking to the youngsters as half a brains like me just think he was talking "smack" and remember when they ask any thing to declare -be honest as when you fib everyone just falls over laughing , its a dead give away ( yes some gloves 4 u 2 for chrisssie)

oh black and meade are hiding out from the people who wish to serve them for everything under the sun -not least the florida wave pool scam -so if you spot a dude hanging around the facilities offering kiddie rewards for wave reef support just tell them to move on - to central asia or somewhere were they migh be usefull -how i really cant imagine. but leave our surfing beachs , waves and kiddies alone . in other works bugger off -another planet preferably - maybe a pizza shop - escort agency -you know all the things that people need to feel good - "hey teacher leave them kids alone" same for the beaches .

oh and be carefull as they have some lawyer based in a internet cafe in nigeria that will try and make everyone else think that its right for them to be "fleeced" - just send your credit card details pin numbers and all other ways of getting to your wealth and you will be put on their comrade list -fernan-doh will work for the best price offered of course!

what comfort can we seek from all this ? precious little as the reefs just keep geting so expensive and (non completed ) sucessfull -the kiddies in bournemouth have told us so. -waves already improved with a non-completed base layer.

why worry about finishing it -just sell base layers

also i really wonder who is behind (??) Vimax now as it seems to be the exact pattern of promise that we all heard about artificial surfing reefs and multifunction multipurpose multiuser ... umm virtual reefs
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:59 am

http://www.surfingmagazine.com/news/sur ... on-082208/

remember all the trash and drivel that was released world wide for black and meades patents that showed their superior intellect and achievement in the surfpool and surf reef methods they devised?

well here is one "trash heap" of the drivel in one place for all to see.

the meades mount reef web site is the other.

drivel on drivel are the only waves of any mention that they can offer the surfing public -meanwhile they seek to be part of "save the beaches" when its them that are the beaches and grommets pocketmoneys greatest threat.

generally ASR and its scientific assertions science shown above and sucess are "mutually exclusive' to quote a friends expression.

beaches need protecting -from them!
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:02 am

As an example, the efficacy of the artificial surfing reef (ASR) at Mount Maunganui, New Zealand, was evaluated. GIS, multibeam echo soundings, oceanographic measurements, photography, and wave modelling were all applied to monitor sea floor morphology around the reef. Results showed that the beach-state has more cellular circulation since the reef was installed, and a groin effect on the offshore bar was caused by the structure within the monitoring period, trapping sediment updrift and eroding sediment downdrift. No identifiable shoreline salient was observed. Landward of the reef, a scour hole ~3 times the surface area of the reef has formed. The current literature on ASRs has primarily focused on reef shape and its role in creating surfing waves. However, this study suggests that impacts to the offshore bar, beach-state, scour hole and surf zone hydrodynamics should all be included in future surfing reef designs. More real world reef studies, including ongoing monitoring of existing surfing reefs are required to validate theoretical concepts in the published literature.

I think all of the above in "geekspeak" means that they all go back to tech after they have removed it and repaired the beach.
then they have to promise to leave the grommets and the beaches alone -forever
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:50 pm

http://www.surfingmagazine.com/news/surfing-pulse/
thats-bullshit-chapter-1-jimmy-wilson-082208/

"How could this happen?" I thought to myself. I know it was only the kiddie pool, but the whole layout was just wack. Apparently the dudes who created this thing had no idea how to surf. The pool was only about 15- 20 yards wide and got narrower from there. Anyone who surfs understands that you don't ride waves going straight in. They have standing waves for that. You ride waves going down the line horizontally. That's how you get speed. Ever check out how far the distance you travel is on a wave? Even on shitty days at beachbreaks it's a whole lot more than 15 yards across.

some coomonsense thoughts on ASR , its "experts' and their achievments.

meade and black are not the "surf messiahs" they are just naughty little boys that misuse other peoples money .They would not have permission to misuse that money if people were aware of how little they really can achieve.

'So the thing was doomed right there. What about the "six waves per minute!" claim they threw out? Well, that's great in theory but the problem with that is as soon as one little ripple pops out of the machine, it chops the hell out of the surface from bouncing off the walls. So 10 seconds later when the next waves dumps out it's like surfing in a washing machine, and each wave after that just becomes progressively worse.

What about the ever changing bottom they claimed could morph the pool from a fun rampy beachbreak and turn it into a heaving Teahupoo-esque pit? Haha! Hilarious! They tried changing the bottom when I was there and I honest-to-god could not tell the difference from what was being produced before. All I saw was when they pumped up the pool to full power it would turn into a waist high, suck-up, closeout that even Cormican couldn't make the drop on.

So there you have it. Not only do we have the Orlando Surfpark to thank for getting out hopes up, we also can thank them for stunting any future development on wavepools around the world for the next decade because I guarantee you investors have taken note of this hideous failure. They took top-notch technology and millions of dollars to create a contraption that is easily shown up by neighbor Typhoon Lagoon's wave pool, which wasn't even built specifically for surfing and was constructed in 1989!

Now they have finally officially shut the Ron Jon Surf Parks project down until further notice, and all I can really do is laugh about it because I could have told them it was doomed from the start.

Now that’s bull! "

Can anyone can remember the hype and crap we heard from the 100 scientific publications and the accolades (self generated) about the advances being made? Every possible scienece journal was sent drivel that got investors believing that some of the above was actually "real", but it wasnt real and got proved to be so. The Kiwi taxpayer also helped fund it with a "grant" for the "versareef" .

I believe that late night TV has better products adverised than the "versareef" and some good sctutiny into the application fro NZ funding mightwell just find "inconsistancies" that amount to a little more than a "growing nose"


ok ASR 'boys" hand to the wall for a "fibber examination " again!!

pass the gloves

they had better get used to this at every airport worldwide as their reputation for "fibbing" in declarations spreads.

Blacks so crafty he probably seeds info for the exam to be mandantory as he might enjoy it?
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:52 pm

http://www.surfingmagazine.com/news/surfing-pulse/
thats-bullshit-chapter-1-jimmy-wilson-082208/

http://www.surfingmagazine.com/news/surfing-pulse
/thats-bullshit-chapter-1-jimmy-wilson-082208/

dammit !
why wont this url display as a full line?

but copy the second line and paste onto the site found by clicking on the first "blue line" and i think you will get there !
or click on url and seek

thats-bullshit-chapter-1-jimmy-wilson-082208

http://www.surfingmagazine.com/news/surfing-pulse/ thats-bullshit-chapter-1-jimmy-wilson-082208/

dammit -but pasting the second bit /thats-bullshit-chapter-1-jimmy-wilson-082208/
onto the found page for surfingmagazine will get you the story - dammit this reminds me of "reefbuilders efforts"

now theres a good scientific "peer review" and about time for some straight talk concerning this bunch of self abusers.

oh has anyone noticed that "save the waves" is a Black and meade instrument of beaches mass destruction and 'endangered waves" is surfrider foundation doing what it always has done very well.

two very distinct groups with two very distinct agendas.


whach out surfers !

so whatchout the beast is morphping and spreading its tendicles in allsorts of ways.

man after the last effort of explaination I feel like an ASR intern that tried to get a reef designed and built - futched
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:48 am

Considering past efforts to reproduce waves that rival the best in the world, we should give the designers of the reef at Mt. Manganui the credit they deserve. Not even the Superbank breaks like a machine on every swell, so let's not let expectations get ahead of reality. We can't expect miracles when we're only at the starting gates. So what if Mt. Reef isn't perfect on every swell? Ask any local, and they will tell you that the waves in Mount Maunganui are a hell of a lot better than they used to be, and from what we hear from the reef's designers, they'll go up another notch once the reef is complete. After all, Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither was Rincon.

Artificial Surfing Reefs: Rincon Was Not Built In a Day
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:55 am

Are you taking the piss or what?

"So what if Mt. Reef isn't perfect on every swell? Ask any local, and they will tell you that the waves in Mount Maunganui are a hell of a lot better than they used to be, and from what we hear from the reef's designers, they'll go up another notch once the reef is complete".

You've obviously not spoken to any local. Have you even seen this thing in the flesh - other than "web knowledge" gleaned from various views from a battered local-trashed webcam. The reef, it's immediate bars, the bars either way for about 1km are far worse than they were prior to construction, i live within eyesight of it, and go past it twice a day. and in more than two years I've had two failed waste-of-time surfs on the thing for a laugh, running & jumping off it onto a passing swell. So yea...it works *smirking*.

The internet is an amazing beast isn't it? Simple reality that I'm looking at out my fleshin window right now is somehow turned into cleverspeak & hubris by those who've never been here and somehow everybody elsewhere in the world thinks our reef works "sometimes" or on the right tide/swell/conditions whatever. it's all lies. it's a complete failure.

It'll never be finished. They have no money and no-one here is dumb enough to give them any more.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:27 am

http://www.surfermag.com/features/onlin ... pedwhenry/

yeh i know - good to hear some fire back in your voice again , I thought you sounded a bit despondent in your last post about being "over it" . theres no rest for us because "evil florishes where good people stay quiet"

www.williamhenry.com
is the man that wrote all that drivel above and I think that he may have only been exposed to the "smackspeak" that atificial reef "developers" give . Interpol is really chasing the orlando pool guys as they were really "naughty' about saying things to different people that were different versions of the truth -oops whn it comes to big money "yu cant do that " busted -up against the wall and time for a fibcheck!!
will henry needs some real reports I think instead of smackspeak from the surf god of reefsmackspeak.
dont you like the part in india where the 5000 fishermen who got arrested protesting are now all saying ( according to keery black)that they prefer a surfing reef over an escape route, new nets , new boats and echo sounders -all offering their kids up as beachboys for carrying KB's boards around - enless summer here he comes!
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:47 am

this is what will henry believes on what he has been told by dr who? -from wills blog
"The visit to Portugal in October by Dr. Kerry Black of ASR Ltd., the world’s leading surfing reef manufacturer, was yet another reminder of how the perceptions of our sport need to change. ASR has projects going all over the world, and some of their reefs are being built for the sole purpose of bringing tourist dollars to a nearby area. So, if governments are willing to pay millions of dollars to build a new surf spot, why would they ever want to pay money to take one out? It doesn’t stand to reason.

Says Dr. Black, “if you build a 2 million Euro wave, the income generated for the local economy will bring about a tenfold return on your money in less than ten years. That’s just good business.” Good business, indeed. The trick is how to get governments like that in Madeira to recognize it. But then again, the more we move towards this goal, the better armed we will be to take on the next battle.

So what is a wave worth? The long answer is that every wave is unique, and thus each has different value. Of course, that value is also difficult to quantify. But suffice it to say that a surf spot is worth a lot more than people realize. The studies by the Surfrider Foundation and Save the Waves, and the ongoing projects by ASR, all have a striking similarity – they remind the world that surf spots are good for business. Perhaps for this reason, some day we will live in on a planet with more surf spots, and not less of them.

now dr who? is a tourism economist -uuhhh students making their own exam papers again!!!
I thought he was a oceanographer turned artificial reef salesman?? ohhh he sells reefs ahhh what would we expect a salesman to say about his "product"??

Common Will 'smell the coffee ' you are being 'tugged off' by the worlds greatest "tugger"

your organisation , its goals and its operations have been infiltrated and compromised by commercial interests - not for profits are not suppossed to allow that to happen . Just ask Kerry black about the 5000 arrested fishermen?
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:54 am

Definition of Fraud Under the “common law” of all states, there is a body of definitions, including the definition of fraud, that have been developed and refined by judges and lawyers over the years. As more cases about fraud have been adjudicated, the definition of what constitutes fraud has become more precise. Fraud has a specific legal meaning. The following essential elements must be present before an actual finding of fraud will occur: Misrepresentation of a material fact consisting of a false representation, concealment or non-disclosure; Knowledge of the falsity (scienter); Intent to deceive and induce reliance; Justifiable and actual reliance on the misrepresentation; and Resulting damages.

read all and decide for yourself if there is an attempt to mislead and decieve going on here?

either one is in "fairyland ' and really believes that all one does is sucessfull or one is a 'fraudster" by the definition of above.
either of the two alternatives may mean that one is not competant to roam free and influence other people into believing things that are not correct?
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:35 am

Underwater check on 'surf grief'
By RICHARD WOODD - Taranaki Daily News Last updated 05:00 15/04/2009 Share Print Text Size Relevant offers
Surf reef representatives say they will be back in Opunake this week to do an underwater inspection of what some locals are now calling the "surf grief".

But the Raglan-based designer and contractor, ASR Ltd, is keeping its options open about when the reef might be completed and operational.

ASR director Shaw Mead says divers and engineers expect to be on site for a day by the end of this week when expected northeasterlies should provide calm and clear water.

"We are preparing now to come down for a full underwater inspection and measurement and decide what is required to complete the reef so it makes a wave. It won't require an overnight stay, as we'll be on the road by 4am."

Doing a detailed dive survey while the water is warm and then preparing bags and equipment meant the actual reef work could be done when there is a calm weather window of several days, which could be as late as July.

The water would then be too cold for divers, but they would not be required for that phase anyway.

"We will have three divers on the survey, using video and various measuring devices to see what gaps need to be filled and to even out the top level. We will then work out the most efficient way of doing this.

"Currently we favour having 6.5 cubic metre geotextile bags made to measure, filled with sand onshore and placed by 15-tonne long-neck digger from a work barge. The bags will weigh up to 10 tonnes each. The exact locations will be marked by GPS and buoys.

"The ends of the existing bags also need to be filled because the sand and gravel mix we used did not work well enough and this will probably require slurry pumping through the 100mm pipeline."

Dr Mead estimates the cost of the completion work at $60,000-$70,000 and payment is the responsibility of the Opunake Surf Reef Trust, which is underwritten by the South Taranaki District Council.

The trust, ASR and an engineering consultant contracted to the STDC agreed at a meeting in New Plymouth in February to proceed with the completion work when conditions are favourable, rather than wait until the trust has raised the money.

"They have assured us they can," Dr Mead said.

"We're doing what we can to help, we're happy to be billed later.

"We will then see if the reef meets the contracted performance specifications. ASR will meet the costs of any additional work required after that."

Surf reef trust chairman David Lusk hasn't heard the cynical local label "surf grief" but says it doesn't surprise him. "It's typical of what some people have been saying about this project all along. It doesn't bother me, I'm thick-skinned. I just shrug them off and say wait until it's finished.

"We've been hoping the reef would be finished this summer and although we're running out of summer, it's good news that ASR are preparing the completion work.

"We do need more money and I'm confident we'll get there without having to go back to the council."
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Roy Stewart » Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:34 am

Brent wrote:
The reef, it's immediate bars, the bars either way for about 1km are far worse than they were prior to construction



It's sad news Brent

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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:28 am

sad news that is also outrageous considering that someone in los angeles is saying the opposite
I believe brent and I think Will in LA is just being lied to, detached from reality or doesnt know up from down when it comes to waves and surfing.

Take your pick - hes reporting it to all "the save the waves coalition" when they have the greates threat to the waves as their advisors.
wtf

no wonder i have bad days and worry about the ability of someone across the world to report things they have yet to go and see and meet to know whats going on.

keep up the expose of the lies and deceit that goes on for the benefit of one mans profit need.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:21 pm

:beer: :beer:
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:15 am

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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:15 am

Ah, the lark asends...
The test is on the meat & potatoes days Kerry. Or even the Roast lamb days... where there are 30 guys out either side of your reef enjoying sandbars & 2-4 foot short-period swell or longer period action from further afield... yet your reef sits unsurfed in the middle like the atoll it is.

This reef you said would create waves, it would shape & form swells into better waves than offered naturally by nature, you created a "wave scale" and talked about wave shape, hollowness & whatever... you sold this reef to young grommets, local businesses & city fathers with carefully crafted talk of 70:1 returns to our community, you installed truck sized billboards on Hewletts road "perfect surf forever" were the words. You created a mailstrom of expectation & hope that has never been quenched. Nor simply said "we tried guys but it just hasn't worked out quite like we thought". We'd have respected you a great deal more for doing so. Front up at the lab on a friday night & say "hey, I'm Kerry Black & my reef works" and see what happens.

I simply love walking into a local surfshop here when their manager wears his teeshirt saying "Mt Reef - yea right". best marketing you could possibly get Kerry

Tell you what Kerry, shall I when travelling past each day at various tides & times take a digital image of your reef from the top of Tay St toilets and post it here for all to see? If you like looking at images of Buoys. (pun intened).
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:31 am

:)
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:18 am

:woot: :woot:
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:48 am

Wow, this is all abit beyond simple ole me.
I'm only interested in the reef, when I read what ASR write and the 2 second images of a collapsing freak barrel taken 2 years ago that somehow prove a reef works. Even I begin to question my own eyes, so I log-off & jump on my bike and go for a ice cream at the Tay Street Dairy, climb the dune & nope...dammit. It's not working. I keep hoping I've be been somehow absent for three years and it's all been a big mistake.

Tell ya what, beginning tomorrow I'll post images of this reef here. I'll begin with some shots of the immediate area (showing the dairy where icecreams & cafe are good) and the beachscape opposite. I will use the same location for each image I take of the reef (the roof of the old toilet block) i will incude an area of about 30 meters either side of the reef for reference. I will include the three marker-buoys that locate it's position underwater for boats as best I'm able. As without these it's usually impossible to even see the reef nor sigh of it on the surface.

I need to also include some beach-scape to illustrate the fact that waves breaking on the beach are better than the reef slightly more seaward (it's about 250 meters out from mean-high-tide line).

I will be as earnestly objective as I can. I am simply documenting & posting reailty for you to look at.

I will hopefully get 2-3 a day in the weekend depending on how busy I am & where surf is elseware, and hopefully one after work in the early evenings (it's dark here early as we're almost mid-winter).

I will post tomorrow evening, and then a small batch ever couple of days as I try to limit my time on the web fluffing around.

So, until tomorrow :-)
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