New Longboard Design

[Hang11]

Looks interesting, funny looking thing though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-SS7XpYQ4s

GSI are about to put them into production, so there will probably be a few demos around soon

http://www.surfindustries.com/surfboard ... hoffer.php

[billie_morini]

verrrry interrrrresting!

[isaluteyou]

looks interesting wouldnt mind trying one out. Mind you it does look a little bit whacky

[tree4]

Mmm. Looks well weird. You under stand his reasoning for all the different areas of the board and why they are shaped like they are, but the overall result (aesthetically) is a bit like the Fiat Multipla . damn ugly.

[essex sucks]

odd odd would like to see one in the water lol see how it goes

[Roy Stewart]

It's based on a design fallacy, and has no future IMO.

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[RJD]

It's based on a design fallacy, and has no future IMO.

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Says the bloke who builds off the wall designed surfboards.

Its OK to be non mainstream so long as its your idea of non mainstream.

Especialy for a 'surfer' your one of the least inclusive closed minded people I've met on the internet.

[Roy Stewart]

What you fail to understand is the design process. . . it's not simply a matter of producing something 'different' as you seem to suppose.

The problem here is not that the board looks different, but that it is based on a surfboard design fallacy and will have several problems in a surfing application as a result.

The trouble with you and your ilk is that you always react to surfboard design statements on a personal, social and emotional level rather than on the level of hydrodynamics. . . .. that approach, from a design point of view is a non starter.

Now if you are interested in saying something about the shape and how it will behave, then please do so, but drop the personal comments please.


You still heading over to hawaii ?

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[phillwilson]

when i first saw it i thought you would ride it the opposite way to what i eventually figured was the correct way, and from that reverse pov, i thought it looked like the underside of a penguin...which in turn interested me as I am always thinking of how to implement the shapes that natural selection and evolution (or god if you swing that way) have created ...and use them in the tools we humans use.

[parrysurf]

Seems as the tail design would elongate the turning radius. Might hold on steep waves, and be fast and full of drive, but I think turning performance would go down. would like to take a spin on one to compare my mind vision of how it might ride, to actually riding it

any vid of this shape in action??

[Roy Stewart]

I like the tail design, which looks like one of my own making a bigger turning radius does not necessarily reduce performance, as turning radius is not te only performance parameter. Turning efficiency is important and a larger turning radius can be much more efficient.

What I don't like is the inefficiency involved in seperating the turning and trimming positions so extremely. . . . it's taking an inefficient concept to its natural conclusion but that doesn't make a good board.

The solution would be to cut the nose off to make a shorter wide point forward board, but better to start al over again IMO.

No doubt it can be ridden successfully in the usual run up and down style though.

[parrysurf]

a long turning radius is fine if you don't want to do cut backs...I picture a 8' radius on the tightest turn on that board....IMO I want a board that will turn tight on the face of the wave, and then get back up to spped in a hurry....not a board that can only arc giant cuts....I feel this board will go fast, but straight would be its favorite direction.

If I am shooting barrels, then going straight is ok.
Again I would like to try, and see on vid

[Roy Stewart]

No it will turn way tighter than that, don't know where you get the 8 foot radius turn idea from, and anyway, an 8 foot radius turn is hardly 'going straight' !

There's more to turning than just the radius you know, there's turning efficiency and speed through turns which is probably more important.


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[parrysurf]

I want my long board to turn 180 roundhouse cut back in a split second, and have it be fluid enough to flow back the right direction and pump back up to speed in a few pumps of the board.
I may be way off base here but I don't think that mega pin tail on that board will allow the board to whip around...granted it may pump graceful arcs on the open face, and have tons of fluid drive......but I don't see it being a performance design.


I want to see video!

[esonscar]

Well as far as I can see its a 'new thing' which - be it crap or good - is something different to ride and enjoy just as much as our favorite 'boards.