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Postby norfolksurferdude » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:50 pm

Well I want to be a doctor, and at the moment im getting good enough grades to get into med school (not a shite one), so when Ive done med school and my years internship I can pretty much migrate to anywhere in the world and work as a doctor, New Zealand especially employs loads of doctors from other counties. So work hopefully wont be an issue. :D
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Postby RJD » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:58 pm

norfolksurferdude - my wife works at Chch's main hospital, they get loads of docs on roatation on their reg stuff etc, if you make it the worlds your pizza! Great place to spend a few years at least.
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Postby norfolksurferdude » Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:10 pm

RJD wrote:norfolksurferdude - my wife works at Chch's main hospital, they get loads of docs on roatation on their reg stuff etc, if you make it the worlds your pizza! Great place to spend a few years at least.

Cool stuff, I hope I do make it, im definately gonna do a few years rotating around different countries, and also im gonna take my gap year after med skewl and mayb after a few years workin, then i will have enough money too have some awsome trips.
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Postby hawaiiSUCKSexceptsurf » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:12 pm

norfolksurferdude wrote:Well I want to be a doctor, and at the moment im getting good enough grades to get into med school (not a shite one), so when Ive done med school and my years internship I can pretty much migrate to anywhere in the world and work as a doctor, New Zealand especially employs loads of doctors from other counties. So work hopefully wont be an issue. :D


dude youre in for like 10 years of education then so dont worry about any of this yet.
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Postby drowningbitbybit » Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:05 pm

hawaiiSUCKSexceptsurf wrote:dude youre in for like 10 years of education then so dont worry about any of this yet.


...and every medical student spends every second of their life doing medicky stuff. I know a lot of medics and none of them have got time for surfing :twisted:
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Postby surferdude_scarborough » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:46 pm

yup. a couple of my friends are medics at uni. they dont have time for anything at all. they used to be proper party animals before uni but now theyre in bed by half 11 because theyve got to be in from 9-5 the next day. kiss goodbye to surfing at uni if you want to do medicine.
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Postby Ged » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:18 am

surferdude_scarborough wrote:yup. a couple of my friends are medics at uni. they dont have time for anything at all. they used to be proper party animals before uni but now theyre in bed by half 11 because theyve got to be in from 9-5 the next day. kiss goodbye to surfing at uni if you want to do medicine.


Dont listen: When i was doing a PhD, I used to work 8.00 am till 8.00 pm and in the evenings go boulder around for two hours on an indoor climbing wall in winter or outside in summer every day. If your commited you can do it. Hey Iv even read about medics with serious heroine problems who held it down. Its just work and if your good youll manage. The secret is to be good and to understand what good is. That means hard work so if doing a 9-5 stops your life thats not good. Anyway if you want to do something reasonably well youve got to be pretty tough.
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Postby drowningbitbybit » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:25 am

Ged wrote: That means hard work so if doing a 9-5 stops your life thats not good.


Being a junior medic is about nine hours away from a 9-5...
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Postby Ged » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:07 am

drowningbitbybit wrote:
Ged wrote: That means hard work so if doing a 9-5 stops your life thats not good.


Being a junior medic is about nine hours away from a 9-5...


I know they work quite hard. I reckon Norfolksurfur is pretty young though and will be able to learn to surf and surf well, if they are commited. The problem with surfing is mainly the requirement of daylight.
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Postby Hang11 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:54 am

Be an accountant, double the wages of a doctor and it's really really really exciting.
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Postby pkbum » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:18 am

surferdude_scarborough wrote:yup. a couple of my friends are medics at uni. they dont have time for anything at all. they used to be proper party animals before uni but now theyre in bed by half 11 because theyve got to be in from 9-5 the next day. kiss goodbye to surfing at uni if you want to do medicine.


ditto,

if you study med, you're gonna have no life.
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Postby surfingwif » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:03 am

norfolksurferdude wrote:Well I want to be a doctor, and at the moment im getting good enough grades to get into med school (not a shite one), so when Ive done med school and my years internship I can pretty much migrate to anywhere in the world and work as a doctor, New Zealand especially employs loads of doctors from other counties. So work hopefully wont be an issue. :D


I'm a doctor, at least, before I started breeding, I was a doctor.

Sounds like a great plan. If you don't get the marks and you still want to do medicine, then I am sure that there are other ways to get in to the course, by transferring into medicine from a related course.

The hours are crap but you get to meet all types of people, in all types of places. It is funny that they all seem to be the same in many ways.

You should think about going somewhere interesting for your elective term. In Australia, medical schools allow you to go anywhere for about 2 months, to do whatever you want. I went to Zimbabwe before it became a disaster. We don't see many English medical students here in australia. i imagine that it is too expensive to come here for 2 months as a student.

You might want to get a bit more experience after your intern year before you go somewhere too career limiting. The local district hospital near us is staffed by lots of English and South African residents. It is a good place to live and work but probably not such a great career move, as the hospital is too small.

Night shift is a good way to have some good early surf sessions. Nice way to end a long shift.

Definitely travel lots while you are a student, before you have any serious financial or emotional commitments. Also surf lots while you are a student, because you will be too tired once you start work.

That said, there are a few doctors here who locum as Emergency physicans and make enough money to pay the mortgage and then go and do the thing that they enjoy. It's fun for a while, but as work is a large part of your life, I can't imagine that you could do it for long.

I suppose that as you get older your priorities become different, so that the most important thing in your life now, (like surfing), will just end up in the queue behind career, partner, mortgage, kids. Not that it is as bad and boring as that sounds. Imagine what sort of partner you must find to demote surfing down the list.

Anyway, good luck with your studies. Hope that you find your spot in the world.

PS Australia is really a very nice place to live and surf, although in Sydney, it is very crowded. Just ask drowningbitbybit.

Probably better than Norfolk as I remember it.

:D :D
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Postby norfolksurferdude » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:40 pm

Cheers Surfingwif, its good to hear from someone who's a doctor, one tthing i cant get about the idea of never bein able to surf, most docs work bout 45 hours a week and have at least 1 day off, as long as i get in once a week that will do me, where i live im used to once or twice a month. Cheers again though, lots of useful stuff there.
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Postby Jc » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:23 pm

I surf sea palling mainly :) Oh god yeah, i don't have a winter wetsuit so no surf for me for a bit + injury anyway. Indo is meant to be nice.
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Postby hawaiiSUCKSexceptsurf » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:07 pm

norfolksurferdude wrote:Cheers Surfingwif, its good to hear from someone who's a doctor, one tthing i cant get about the idea of never bein able to surf, most docs work bout 45 hours a week and have at least 1 day off, as long as i get in once a week that will do me, where i live im used to once or twice a month. Cheers again though, lots of useful stuff there.


so youd rather base your decision on where the sur is rather than the best place to practice medicine or the best place to help people??? it makes a difference like in america (hawaii) you might have to turn people away who dont have insurance. or you could go to a third world country where maybe the surf isnt great but you could really help people. thats what i would suggest. work at a free clinic in south america or the caribbean
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Postby billie_morini » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:59 am

surfingwif opently shares, "The local district hospital near us is staffed by lots of English and South African residents. It is a good place to live and work but probably not such a great career move, as the hospital is too small."

In contrast I share this: I made all my decisions based on what was best for my career. I don't get to excercise enough, let alone surf enough. I'm envious of my friends in my age range, +50, that made career decisions based on surfing. Mind you, I make big money, have all the stuff anyone would want, and have some exciting times in my work, but I encourage norfolksurferdude to pursue decisions based on surf. He may not make tons of money, but he'll have the wealth that nature provides and the frequent joy of immersion into the sea.
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Postby hawaiiSUCKSexceptsurf » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:05 am

billie_morini wrote:surfingwif opently shares, "The local district hospital near us is staffed by lots of English and South African residents. It is a good place to live and work but probably not such a great career move, as the hospital is too small."

In contrast I share this: I made all my decisions based on what was best for my career. I don't get to excercise enough, let alone surf enough. I'm envious of my friends in my age range, +50, that made career decisions based on surfing. Mind you, I make big money, have all the stuff anyone would want, and have some exciting times in my work, but I encourage norfolksurferdude to pursue decisions based on surf. He won't make tonsof money, but he'll have the wealth that nature provides and the frequent joy of immersion into the sea.


i agree, which is why i dont think he should become a doctor if he loves surfing so much to let it determine where he lives, how nuch money he will make, housing costs, etc. i think some charity orginization is a good idea for you, youll probably be able to go someplace with some wavs, and you wont make money but you might be able to have more time to surf.
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Postby surfingwif » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:27 am

norfolksurferdude wrote:Cheers Surfingwif, its good to hear from someone who's a doctor, one tthing i cant get about the idea of never bein able to surf, most docs work bout 45 hours a week and have at least 1 day off, as long as i get in once a week that will do me, where i live im used to once or twice a month. Cheers again though, lots of useful stuff there.



The hours here are probably a bit more than that.
In a busy secondment at a smaller district hospital, the hours would be closer to 55 to 60+ hours a week. The english residents that I have worked for tell me that it is different and a bit less hours in the UK.


For example if you want to do surgical training, you can be rostered on from Fri morning until Mon Night. This is in addition to your normal 7am to 6pm Mon to Fri daytime work. This sounds quite romantic but it is really just dangerous and a bit soul destroying. They would commonly do 70 or 80 hours a week i would think.

That is not so common, now, but it still happens.


Happy to chat about doctor stuff if you want to PM me.

Definitely, chat to any doctors you can find about their lifestyle and if that is what you want.

Happy surfing!
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Postby norfolksurferdude » Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:13 pm

i agree, which is why i dont think he should become a doctor if he loves surfing so much to let it determine where he lives, how nuch money he will make, housing costs, etc. i think some charity orginization is a good idea for you, youll probably be able to go someplace with some wavs, and you wont make money but you might be able to have more time to surf.[/quote]
I do love surfing, but i also really want to be a doctor, and as long as i live somewhere nice where i know that when i do have some spare time i will definately be able to have a good surf, then that will be enough for me.
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Postby hawaiiSUCKSexceptsurf » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:21 pm

then move no hawaii. not sure about doctors but i know they need nurses, im sure youll get hired, since a lot of professionals flee hawaii because of living costs and low pay. plus we have the worst traffic in america in honolulu. but there is no winter and lots of doctors and lawyers surf dawn patrol.
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