Please! Do something about the Bournemouth Reef hype!!!

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Postby Realwaves » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:47 am

Brent you are so right,

These guys are going down and unfortunately taking the sport with them.

Mate you say their wavepool works, I have them stating to me that it "Failed" , that is the Orlando thing. These so called "surfers" need to step back and leave the sport alone as the damage they are doing now , with their failed pool and reefs, will drag potential sponsorship and corporate dollars away from the roots of surfing for others to suffer.

Guys go away and leave it to people that can achieve what they set out to do and NOT blame everyone for their own mistakes.

That goose quoted in a meeting for this reef "if pipeline is a 10 on a scale from 1 to 10 then this reef will be a 5" . @@#$&%*)&

Mate you need the common thing to make waves you twit ........ swell, to say this wave will be half as good as Pipe is showing the world their total disrespect for surfing and the waves we ride.

Go home Kooks, cause thats all you are.
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Postby Brent » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:53 am

Hi,
For future reference for anybody whose interested. If you Rob or any unfortunate group has this organisation eyeing up your area please PM me. I can give you a whole list of embarrassing questions to ask the ASR crowd when they next roll out the smoke & mirrors marketing-speak at the initial meeting/public consultation.

Remember (the lesson here was) the local business community doesn't actually care if it makes waves or not...as long as the punters come expecting waves...they have to eat, drink, stay somewhere & fill their cars up to drive home again. Surf comes second to them...they're still making money. Meanwhile you're all sitting out the back looking to the horizion for the perfect wave.

When I read the Bournemouth stuff it makes me feel sick. Sick that they were able to get into another local community and do this project unqualified & un-validated. By that I mean not one of the only 3 "surf" reefs they've actually built have worked. Not even remotely.

If you look at the ASR reef website for our reef sure you'll see waves & a little video or two. But look at the dates of the footage - in the three years it's been in the water that's the only remotely surf-like footage there is. It's an errant swell, from a quirky angle that actually worked for a couple of hours on dead-low tide once. So much so they had to scramble to record it as "evidence" the reef works...cr*p it does.

It also shows how little proper research the Bournemouth Council did before granting consent.
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Postby esonscar » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:47 pm

Two points I’d like to know :-

1) Did Bournemouth council utilise the expertise of any local watersports men / women ?

2) Is the reef situated below the low water mark ?

anyone know ?
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Postby Brent » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:18 am

Hi, cannot answer the first question. But the second I can. our reef is positioned so at the lowest astronomical tide it is 40cm (16 inches) underwater. From the beach you can see it and it looks like a man-made atoll.

It is very shallow, but it needs to be, in order for a wave to jack-up & break it must transion from deep to shallow within meters. Ours was designed to go from 9 meters deep to 40cm deep within about 2-3 meters of swell travel. When looking at it from the seaward side underwater it literally looks like a big wall gently sloping backwards towards the beach.
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Postby market-research » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:41 pm

HELLO ALL
I have been following with interest the marketing of this new form of beach improvement and have noted that it has paralells with my origional theses on 'over promoted products"

But for the moment I have noticed a total blackout on news from the construction of the Bournemouth Reef.

is it still under construction?
has there been technical difficulties?
will it be completed this year?

If there is anyone listening that lives near the construction site can they please provide any answers to these questions? Preferably based on their own observations of what they see going on.

Also locals that can provide feedback on what they expect optimistically and "worst case" from the adventure would be good to hear from.

Is there anybody there in Bournemouth that can report what is occurring?

I look foreward to hearing from Bournemouth locals on the above questions.
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Postby kitesurfer » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:53 am

market-research wrote:HELLO ALL
I have been following with interest the marketing of this new form of beach improvement and have noted that it has paralells with my origional theses on 'over promoted products"

But for the moment I have noticed a total blackout on news from the construction of the Bournemouth Reef.

is it still under construction?
has there been technical difficulties?
will it be completed this year?

If there is anyone listening that lives near the construction site can they please provide any answers to these questions? Preferably based on their own observations of what they see going on.

Also locals that can provide feedback on what they expect optimistically and "worst case" from the adventure would be good to hear from.

Is there anybody there in Bournemouth that can report what is occurring?

I look foreward to hearing from Bournemouth locals on the above questions.


Would you care to introduce yourself first?

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Postby kitesurfer » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:02 am

market-research wrote:But for the moment I have noticed a total blackout on news from the construction of the Bournemouth Reef.



http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... +surf+reef

Hmmm so much for the total news black out.

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Postby market-research » Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:34 pm

hi KS

I have noticed since the construction commenced that there have not been any daily , weekly reports or even BOO from anybody?
whats happening?

The last I saw was a BBC report about a "fake reef" around the commencment time but nothing since that i have seen.

I was hoping for local people who can see whats going on -as with the BBC report - I place more value on whats is really going on seen by real people.

All that you pointed to is old news -again , any news as asked please?

M-R :D
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Postby kitesurfer » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:23 am

market-research wrote:hi KS

I have noticed since the construction commenced that there have not been any daily , weekly reports or even BOO from anybody?
whats happening?

The last I saw was a BBC report about a "fake reef" around the commencment time but nothing since that i have seen.

I was hoping for local people who can see whats going on -as with the BBC report - I place more value on whats is really going on seen by real people.

All that you pointed to is old news -again , any news as asked please?

M-R :D


No your absolutely correct there have not been daily reports of just how much sand they have managed to move from the the beach into the sandbanks.
Also this summer has been one of the windiest on record 8) resulting in vertually no work being done on the reef. Daily or even weekly updates would have been a waste of time. So the update of the 5th september is about as new as you'll get.
Also you say the last you saw was a bbc report about a fake reef around the commencement time. The link i posted has way more detailed infomation than that.
So which is it MR? Have you read the link i posted for you or was the last you saw some bbc report on a fake reef? :roll:

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Postby kitesurfer » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:52 am

market-research wrote:All that you pointed to is old news -again , any news as asked please?

M-R :D


I'm feeling charitable today MR.

7am this morning local time just in case your not in the uk! :wink:

Boscombe's giant sandcastle. AKA the sand for the reef.

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You can't get much more up todate info than that.

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Postby market-research » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:59 am

cool,

thank you
thats as up tp date as one can get!
too bad the sand is still onshore but if they get days like the one shown it can be expected to be in the containers?

are you a reef believer or denier?
there seems to be two distinct groups with the believers saying alls well and we are happy and the deniers saying "are you on the same planet as us?"

what are your thoughts on this?

oh the builders must have improved the local pub economy waiting for good days like today?
regards
and thanks for the picture -I hope the sand doesnt blow away!
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Postby kitesurfer » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:07 am

market-research wrote:are you a reef believer or denier?

what are your thoughts on this?



Read through the thread. I have already expressed my views on this.

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Postby market-research » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:17 am

From a surfing perspective i agree it will be a waste of time & i will not surf it! The thing is though the reef will be a huge sucess & its funny that both surfers & the local council have yet 2 realise why! KS

wooh
did the designers not do their homework or what!!
and will it be great for savvy windsurfers? -sounds like it.
is this an instance of a interesting outcome or what!

I will continue to watch for news as it is getting more interesting all the while.

you couldnt have planned it better if you had tried -but you were not the planners so how did you swing that?
Can the surfers ask for their money back ? or just charge the windsurfers for time on "their reef"!!

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Postby kitesurfer » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:23 am

market-research wrote:you couldnt have planned it better if you had tried -but you were not the planners so how did you swing that?
Can the surfers ask for their money back ? or just charge the windsurfers for time on "their reef"!!

M-R


You'd be amazed at the deals i can swing.
Surfers didn't have to stump up any money so they can hardly ask for it back.
And windsurfers won't have to pay as they will be banned from using it and only surfers and kitesurfers will be allowed to play! :wink:

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Postby market-research » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:03 pm

LOL
ROF
:lol:
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Postby kitesurfer » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:40 pm

market-research wrote:LOL
ROF
:lol:
M-R


https://surfing-waves.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2
I think number 9 applies here. :roll:

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Postby oldgrom » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:09 pm

Wait till it's done I say. If it rocks and gives great surf than surf it for what it's worth (keeping in mind that it ain't a GOD made surf break). If it suck's then we'll grab torches and pitchforks and hunt em down.
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Postby market-research » Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:21 pm

:shock:
:!:
:idea: :arrow: village square stocks and tomatoes or tar and feathers then a week of public humiliation also come to mind?
jj off course!
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Postby market-research » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:35 am

oops sorry about the excess of #9 rule
this is the first time that I've contributed to one of these discussions and texting/shorthand is what I'm used to.

(u distinguished generations r not used to that so much, so I will yield to respect for 'generation gap" and read /obey the rules)
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Postby drowningbitbybit » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:08 am

market-research wrote:
(u distinguished generations r not used to that so much, so I will yield to respect for 'generation gap" and read /obey the rules)


IQ gap.
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