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easy speed generating board

Postby ultrakook » Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:18 pm

Is there a board that is super easy to pump or speed generate on?
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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby waikikikichan » Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:01 am

Probably a DHD ( Darren Handley Design ) surfboard, since that is what Mick Fanning rides. He is considered the "Fastest surfer on the planet". Here he gives you some tips on generating speed.
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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby PipeDreams » Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:46 pm

There are different types of pumping as well, but in general boards that are wider with less rocker are easier to generate speed with. Some boards are designed to control speed, and some to generate their own. This is the basic idea behind a groveller surfboard. So the truthful answer is get a board with more width and less rocker, but if you live somewhere where there is more power behind the waves, there may not be as much point in this as you will be sacrificing control in order to pump easier. So look into groveller boards if it suits where you surf, if not, simple answer is better your pumping teqnique, as a board will never generate speed for you!
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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby oldmansurfer » Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:04 pm

I think a wider board would be good for generating speed on slower waves but a narrower board is better for generating speed on steep fast waves. I guess it depends on how flat the board will be on the surface of the wave. If all you will have is the rail hanging on a wall then a narrower board is better.
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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby waikikikichan » Wed Dec 07, 2022 9:44 pm

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If you want "Easy Speed" , this board says it's good for that.


Fast forward to :25 and :59 to see him blow past the longboarders.

And a nice pumping sequence at 3:20.
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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby oldmansurfer » Thu Dec 08, 2022 3:06 am

My thought is you can generate speed with any board. Some boards go faster without your input and those boards can most likely be made to go faster if you have the skills. None of the boards can be made to go faster if you don't know how but some will go faster without your energy input except you need to adjust your weight distribution on the board to the wave. All of the videos show skilled individuals making boards go faster . It's hard to tell which boards might be helpful but I'm sure a beginner riding those boards will stall out on those waves instead of passing the other surfers
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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby Geezer » Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:18 am

Try this.

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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby waikikikichan » Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:13 am

ultrakook wrote:Is there a board that is super easy to pump or speed generate on?


Look at what you're asking, "super easy". If there's a board that is super easy to pump and super easy to generate speed on, don't you think everyone would be riding that model from said manufacturer ? Long ago it was the Al merrick Flyer, the Hypto Crypto , Tomo blah blah , Firewire blah blah, or the flavor of the month ( or whatever Noel Salas likes this week )

Ask that question but for another sport:

" Is there a bmx bike that is super easy to do bar spins on ? "
" Is there a golf club that is super easy to hit 300 yard drives with ? "
" Is there a baseball bat that is super easy to hit home runs on ? "
" Is there a fishing lure that is super easy to catch fish with ? "

Even if there was such a board, you still need to be in the right part of the wave and be standing on the right part of the board. The board cannot make up for lack of skill/technique or knowledge of the wave. A surfboard, like a paint brush, bowling ball, computer, arrow, etc, has no potential on its own. It needs input from the user.

A lot of people on the forum are giving you advice on technique. But it seems you want the board to do it for you. It seems you want to avoid the hard work of time and effort to advance your skills. Getting good at anything takes time and effort, there are no short cuts. Surfing ain't easy.
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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby Geezer » Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:37 pm

A kittle more explanation.

https://youtu.be/qa9p87dKlvk

https://youtu.be/hEEAqM5P2NI

https://youtu.be/M0SUvu-GhDA

Like WKK said, its not about the board. Its technique & practice. This exercise does give the right feeling. I havent signed up for the (expensive) course but doing this now and then tunes me up. Enough of their stuff is free online anyway.
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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby Geezer » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:54 pm

https://surfing-waves.com/surfing-speed.htm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPM9df1I0ps


Looking for a video that I saw of Fanning wiggling then pumping….will post it if I can find it.
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Re: easy speed generating board

Postby Geezer » Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:27 pm

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