having trouble finding the current stance

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having trouble finding the current stance

Postby nivkonforti » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:15 pm

i have a question,
when im skating a skatebored i find goofy stance as a more comfortable position, like when i try regular stance i cant even stand up on the skateboard without falling
however, when im surfing my surfboard i find it way way more comfortable surfing at regular stance.. like i cant even think about trying to popup to goofy stance its like im automaticly driving to the regular stance, i tried a few times to popup to the goofy stance and i made it one time but it felt so uncomfortable that i immediately slipped and fell.
i want to start surfskating in order to improve my surfing balance now i dont know what to do....
try to adapt the goofy stance to the surfboard or try to adapt the regular stance to the skateboard
anyone else has this problem?

surfing for a few months just moved from softboard to a funboard
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby jaffa1949 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:31 pm

It is quite common this problem on foot forward for skate Boarding and the other for surfing .
Two differences in skateboarding you have a foot o kick you along and you are already standing, surf board you have to pop up somewhere in there is a brain change, with some practice on either board you may become a switchfoot :lol:
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby oldmansurfer » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:44 pm

I have known a few people who surfed one stance and skateboarded another. I found it easier to switch stance skateboarding than surfing although I learned to do both long ago. When I skateboarded I used to do a lot of 180s and it wasn't too difficult for me to keep skateboarding for a little then do another 180 to switch back. Just gradually increasing how much I did with my right foot forward. Switching stance surfing was what I did on days when the waves weren't bigger or good enough to challenge me when I was learning to surf. I tried to surf every day to speed up my learning but some days weren't good for learning at my level so I would switch stance on those days. Hahaha so both is what I say LOL maybe someone else can give you more specific advice
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby waikikikichan » Wed Jun 29, 2022 9:19 pm

Not sure what type of skateboard you rode, but when you OLLIE, you pushed down your Left foot to get the nose up. What foot are you pushing down on on the Funboard to bring up the nose to pivot off the fin(s) ?

I suspect the problem isn't your stance, but how you pop up. If you're doing a crawl up pop up, you might be starting in a goofy stance by bringing up your normal Right foot, but then the Left foot crosses over to get the weight centered in the middle of the board.
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby nivkonforti » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:45 am

thanks for all the comments and tips, im a beginer level so im not doing so many manoeuvers on the board i only speak about general feeling when standing on it and popping up, about skateboarding i dont skate regulary just took my friends board for a little ride and found out that im a goofy stance there
from what im understanding from you guys its better for me to keep my regular stance on the board and just try to learn that stance on a surfskate? that would be easier than trying to change the stance at the surfboard as i am depending on the days to be good for learning?
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby waikikikichan » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:36 am

1) You shouldn't go down in size to a FUNboard until you can do most of the beginner basics on your sponge and start to do simple turns. Right now you're just standing and riding in the middle. Once you start to turn, you will need to have a back foot push down over the back fin(s).

2) I don't think you can determine from a "little ride" what stance you are ( on a surfboard or skateboard ). I had a student that had a boyfriend that was a regular footer, turned out she was actually Goofy footed, she had first thought to mimic his stance.

Question: which way do you bat for baseball ?

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nivkonforti wrote:from what im understanding from you guys its better for me to keep my regular stance on the board and just try to learn that stance on a surfskate? that would be easier than trying to change the stance at the surfboard as i am depending on the days to be good for learning?

I'm not recommending to do that. Think about this, which "board" are you more apt to bust your knee, wrist or head on ?
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby nivkonforti » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:09 pm

sorry i probably didnt explain myself correctly, i moved to funboard after i managed to do simple turns and understanding the popup technique.
i dont skate Regulary, actually i dont skate at all i only tell you what felt more comfortable from the few times i tried, ofcourse that im trying to focus on my surfing thats all the point, i recently been told that surfskating can improve my surfing alot so i wanted to give it a go, im surfing for a few months already on a regular basis.

the funboard i switched to feels great, im catching alot of waves and really feeling im progressing i just wanted to know if maybe im not standing correctly because im yet to start manouvering the board as i need to learn more but in surfskate im able to make simple turns and being more radical and basicly have more balance on the skate when standing with a goofy stance and thats make me think maybe it will be the same at the surfboard (again, i tried the goofy stand on the surfboard but im unable to popup its like im automaticly goes to regular stand)

well i never batted a baseball before but i am a right hand so i think ill stand regular stand when batting
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby jaffa1949 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:15 pm

Forget switching stance for skate board, don’t worry about baseball, surf more, if you pop up in going naturally to its stance, there you have it!
Get someone to video you surfing then the advice can really begin :lol:
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby nivkonforti » Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:31 pm

so just trying to surfskate at my surfing stance is what you think will be best for me?
i just want to practice manouvering and maintaning balance on land in order to improve on the surfboard too
if we are speaking on this subject already, do you have some tips for me for some excercise that will help me improving on those aspects?
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby jaffa1949 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:26 pm

Balance boards help and a general exercise program, but so much is based on what the wave offers :D
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby oldmansurfer » Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:53 pm

If you don't skateboard already then you have to spend time learning to skateboard. Surfing requires understanding the ocean which can't be acquired on a skateboard. The quickest way to learn to surf is to surf more.
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby waikikikichan » Thu Jun 30, 2022 10:19 pm

nivkonforti wrote: i recently been told that surfskating can improve my surfing alot so i wanted to give it a go, im surfing for a few months already on a regular basis.

And is that person(s) who told you that a really good surfer ? A surfskate is a tool to help further your skills that you ALREADY HAVE. I would not recommend it for a beginner surfer ( and especially for one without a skateboarding background ). Totally agree with what OMS said. Learn one thing at a time. You are getting way too far ahead of yourself ( and skills ).

You may think I am against Surfskates, on the contrary, I totally use them for my students wanting to improve. Surfkates like Carver are the best tool I've found for training on land ....................... for intermediate / advanced surfers. ( not for beginners )

Surfing just a few months ? It takes a full year to about 3 years just learning the basics and staying out of peoples ways. The real increase in skills happen in the 3-6 years.

nivkonforti wrote:i just want to practice manouvering and maintaning balance on land in order to improve on the surfboard too
if we are speaking on this subject already, do you have some tips for me for some excercise that will help me improving on those aspects?

Surfing takes time. You already went backwards by going down in size too early. Spending time on a larger board learning the basics will pay larger dividens in the future. But since you are in such a rush, it actually will take longer for you to improve. Don't RUSH, listen to the Wave.
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby Geezer » Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:18 am

I’m not going to address your questions. The others already gave you great answers; don’t be in a hurry and enjoy the ride, figuratively and literally.

I wanted to share my daughter’s experiences. She 13 and has recently become interested in skating and surfing. I used to skate as a kid and it was my primary form of transportation as a teenager; I have 7-8 skaties lying around including 3 carvers. About a year ago both my daughers became more interested in skating so I started street skating with them, found some good spots around the house, took them to skateparks and just generally encouraged them. I have given basic pointers but for the most part told them to go have fun and sort it out on their own, watching what others are doing/lines they take when at the skateparks. Younger decided to get more into surfing as described in another thread; I’m sure each helps the other but I coach very little and pretty much just encourage her to enjoy - she will find her way. Small things like keeping hands on the outside of each of the rails on surf or skate and telling her to not hesitate to move feet around if it doesn’t feel right and to be active and supple when feeling the board under your feet and don’t be stiff m, respond to the feels.

I’m not an instructor but as a participant, life is short. Enjoy what you do in the moment and each of the steps of the journey you are on. You might never be a surfer as good as you would like to be……..but you da*n sure can enjoy each session you take. Surf and skate for fun; each helps the other but don’t make it a chore….it won’t go any faster and you won’t enjoy the time you spend.
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby jaffa1949 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 8:44 am

Really amen to that Geezer :lol:
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby nivkonforti » Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:07 pm

of course ive started with a softboard until i learned the basic techniques and than i downgraded in size to a smaller softboard and managed to master it as well, im surfing alot and i know that surfing can improve my surfing the best all i wanted is something else to do on land when the waves arent good for surfing to maintain my form and improving my skills
i switched to a funboard which ive been using for a couple of weeks and i am more than satisfied from it, im catching waves, taking turns and really feels it suits me good
i just asked a simple question which i dont feel i got an answer to about the stance situation
and followed up to a question about tips and tricks to improve my balance and manouvering on the board *ON LAND* because ofcourse i know that it can be improved the best in the ocean but again i want more things to do in order to practice it on low days and evening-night hours when i dont surf
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Re: having trouble finding the current stance

Postby oldmansurfer » Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:03 pm

It's a tough question. I think just learn to skate whichever foot forward learn to surf whichever foot forward. Unlike Waikikchan I am not convinced skateboarding helps to learn surfing but they are similar so maybe it will help in general balance but you can't really replicate what you do surfing on a skateboard. My opinion is learn to skateboard whatever foot forward that seems right and after you get good enough to master all the moves then try switching stance. Falling on pavement skateboarding can much easier injure yourself than falling surfing and whatever benefit you get from skateboarding it isn't worth getting injured and not being able to surf.
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