Props to this guy who ran away from the media

[BaNZ]

https://pix11.com/2018/09/15/recovery-m ... way-beach/

Scroll to 2 min. I was there Saturday surfing when I saw lots of police, boats and helicopter turned up I know something was wrong. The rip current was strong. I was paddling out and before I knew it. I was carried 100 meter from my location. I've never seen it that bad and I was really lucky because there were many dangerous jettis around that area. The ones that will impale you when the waves breaks on top of them.

Glad that the surfer ran away from the interview because I don't think anything good can come out of it. You can hear the tone from the reporter that she was angry.

Sunday, they were diving and trying to find the body 20 feet away from the lineup. Most of us just shrugged it off and are fighting over who gets to catch the next wave.

[oldmansurfer]

Rough? Well that reminds me of the time I was on a charter fishing boat off New Jersey and the Captain kept apologizing for the rough conditions. I finally had to tell him "Rough? This is the calmest ocean I have ever seen from a boat." It was just 4 foot swells rolling in evenly and smoothly. As for the guy running away yeah what is the point? Tell them that someone else dying doesn't scare you? I once was about to go out surfing at my regular beach. A police officer came up to me and said "The conditions here are dangerous. You shouldn't go out." I answered back "these aren't dangerous conditions." He said someone drowned and he had to warn me. I thanked him for his concern but I was sure I could deal with it and I have been out in conditions that actually were dangerous and survived. He just said again it was his job and he was doing it. Then told me it was tourists who were walking on the beach and the husband was swept off his feet by a wave and while he was only a few feet from the shore it was too deep for him to touch the bottom and his wife who also couldn't swim watched him drown just feet away. I told him no worries I can swim and I know the water is deep right there and he went on his way and me out into the water. I didn't drown.

[BaNZ]

Rough? Well that reminds me of the time I was on a charter fishing boat off New Jersey and the Captain kept apologizing for the rough conditions. I finally had to tell him "Rough? This is the calmest ocean I have ever seen from a boat." It was just 4 foot swells rolling in evenly and smoothly. As for the guy running away yeah what is the point? Tell them that someone else dying doesn't scare you? I once was about to go out surfing at my regular beach. A police officer came up to me and said "The conditions here are dangerous. You shouldn't go out." I answered back "these aren't dangerous conditions." He said someone drowned and he had to warn me. I thanked him for his concern but I was sure I could deal with it and I have been out in conditions that actually were dangerous and survived. He just said again it was his job and he was doing it. Then told me it was tourists who were walking on the beach and the husband was swept off his feet by a wave and while he was only a few feet from the shore it was too deep for him to touch the bottom and his wife who also couldn't swim watched him drown just feet away. I told him no worries I can swim and I know the water is deep right there and he went on his way and me out into the water. I didn't drown.

If I don't get seasick from surfing, would that be the same case with a charter fishing boat? I really want to try fishing on a boat but I'm very concerned that I'll get seasick from it. Definitely don't want to spend hours puking all over the deck.

The issue with bystanders is that they are not able to judge your abilities. In many cases, they are just like the reporter and have no clue about surfing. I kinda wished they interview me instead. Because I would say something along the lines like. I surf here every year after Labor day and I've seen swimmers got in trouble nearly every weekend. They should extend the lifeguards duty for another month or two. Plus the last few incidents, it was the surfers who rescued the swimmers that got into difficulty.

[oldmansurfer]

Seasickness comes from the discordance in movement between what you feel and what you see. Most surfers don't get seasick surfing but try reading a book while on your board and that might be a different outcome. The trick to avoiding seasickness on a boat is to not look at anything in the boat as much as possible. Once you get seasick the effect will last for a long time even though you quit looking at stuff in the boat. Sometimes I cut bait or tie rigs and then I get seasick a little and that feeling lasts until we get back on shore again even though I never hurl. So even when you are talking to someone try to look out over the ocean most of the time. Also a bigger and more powerful boat and calm water will create less discordant motion. Probably the worst boat trip I took was on a large sail boat which is usually really stable and not likely to produce much seasickness but there was no wind so we were under motor. That boat heaved and rolled so much like 6 feet difference in height in a couple seconds. Everyone on the boat maybe 30 to 40 people got sick except for me the captain his wife and their dog Sinbad. They had this huge spread of food for lunch, make your own hoagie sandwiches with all the fixings. It was fabulous and I am not sure if anyone other than me ate anything. But I was careful to look out over the ocean for most of the time I was there. Sailboats are really stable under sail because the wind in the sail keeps the motion from the ocean in a single plane just up and down but under motor that boat moved side to side wildly as well as up and down. It's that type of motion that is worst for seasickness.

I should have told the cop that I surfed there 3 to 7 days a week for the last 2 years so I know what I am talking about.

[dtc]

ginger 'travel calm' pills work quite well for seasickness; well at least people tell me that (may be a placebo). Many people are fine on smaller craft (eg surfboards, 15ft boats) because the boats move up and down rapidly, which is much like jumping or running etc (ie your ears are used to it) but on bigger boats they roll and move slowly and that gives your ears just enough time to get confused before there is another movement. As oldman says, looking at the horizon is very useful.

But you will never know if you are a person who gets seasick until you try it

I was on a ferry once from Crete to Santorini (the high life!) and pretty much everyone on board (probably 150 people) got seasick (except me). They ran out of spew bags; greek men in particular are very very loud about being sick...not the most pleasant voyage, certainly not what you think about when you are thinking of ferries between the greek islands!

Oddly, my daughter who gets car sick was fine on the ferry; my son who reads in cars with no problems was throwing up. My wife who cant read in a car without getting sick was fine. I was fine, but I never seem to have motion sickness anywhere. So its all a bit of a mystery

My suggestion - just go fishing. Find out whether you are good or bad. i've been on plenty of fishing trips and hardly anyone has been sick (that may be a self selecting cohort of course)

[oldmansurfer]

I am fairly sure I can talk someone into getting seasick. First of all on a boat you have to look at stuff on the boat so you will be looking at something that seems stable from a visual point of view but moving from a sensation point of view. Then just mentioning being seasick and maybe pretending to throw up will be all it takes to make someone seasick so my advice is don't take me with you

[saltydog]

I pretty much never get motion sickness. One time I was on an overnight ferry ride over the Sea of Japan in the middle of January with about a dozen friends, and I and one other guy didn’t get sick... until we started playing cards. But we recovered as soon as we stopped the game. My kids all get car sick easily and they also get sea sick from small fishing boats or medium sized ferry. So you are either ok or not, but maybe you can eventually get used to it, ie growing the sea legs???
Ginger capsules help as well as the ginger lollipops meant for pregnant women. But the very best is the electronic pulsating wristbands that costs around $60-100usd. A family friend has recommended it to us as a magic cure for his daughter, and sure enough it has worked on one of my kids who has it the worst. We haven’t tested on the water craft but considering you can buy them at a marine gear shop like west marine, it looks promising.

[kookRachelle]

https://pix11.com/2018/09/15/recovery-mission-underway-for-missing-17-year-old-swimmer-at-rockaway-beach/
I was there Saturday surfing when I saw lots of police, boats and helicopter turned up I know something was wrong. The rip current was strong. I was paddling out and before I knew it. I was carried 100 meter from my location. I've never seen it that bad and I was really lucky because there were many dangerous jettis around that area. The ones that will impale you when the waves breaks on top of them.

Glad that the surfer ran away from the interview because I don't think anything good can come out of it. You can hear the tone from the reporter that she was angry.

Sunday, they were diving and trying to find the body 20 feet away from the lineup. Most of us just shrugged it off and are fighting over who gets to catch the next wave.

Oh, it was at 86th? I thought it was at 90th where we saw the boats on Sunday... or maybe that was from the same search? I know it's horrible but imagine waiting for a wave in the line up and getting bumped by, not a shark but a bloated dead body!! Welcome to NYC baby! All jokes aside, some of those jetties are super dangerous and because I don't have good control, I don't like taking off anywhere near them. I also don't like being down near 91/92 in the "death sticks." As we saw on Sunday after Florence, they get totally covered when there is a lot of water and the current is unpredictable. Sunday was the first time I've ever seen the drag go out east - all that water has to go somewhere! Anyway, they took the original death sticks down a while back, but these are a death trap waiting to happen!

https://www.outsideonline.com/1798556/nyc-removes-surfing-death-sticks-rockaway

[kookRachelle]