Best spots with DIFFERENT wave types directly side by side

[wat4zz]

Hello,

hey homies I'm new to this forum and my BIG BIG question is:

What are the BEST surf spots where you can find DIFFERENT wave types and I mean great waves preferably directly or NOT TOO far away from each other.
Im asking for worldwide spots and the goal here is really wave quality and differences and not the cities / shopping / attractions

It would be great to experience on one day a great wave and walk to a different on the same or next day.

Please sort the spots from different great wave types next to each other followed by the same but with larger distance between waves.


thanks for all replies

[jaffa1949]

First question where are you based? Might be a spot next door!

[wat4zz]

hello,


im from north germany
here we have isles like sylt (to the pacific) and spots like hvide sande , klitmöller etc. in west denmark, but i dont think there are like great barrells and opportunities like for example a place
in portugal called sagres in the algarve where there are three spots for beginners/andvanced and experts
Mareta, Marthinal and tonel right next to each other (a very sheltered beach break, sheltered beach break and a reasonably exposed beach and point break )

3 kilometers away from town of sagres the spot
Beliche, a sheltered beach and point break (for xperts)

and 5 to 7 kilometers away
Barranco da Belharucas (sandbar break)
ingrina (a sheltered reef break)
Zavial (a fairly exposed point beach break - for xperts)

dont know exactly how different all these waves are but i will further read on that.

hopefully we have or can get a list of places with best opportunities

[jaffa1949]

Ok so I now know what your local beaches are, but what level do you Surf at!?
You mentioned Name breaks but other than the North Sea where have you surfed.
Barrels and the bigger and better they get the bigger and better your skill and techniques need to be!
By the way hi homie etc is not any indication of surfing ability, just normal English will do nicely, then let your Surfing do your talking!

Try the Peniche Baleal area, , covers a few of your ideas, are you getting the names from guides or experiencing them.

Where encounters broken coast line, different swell directions cause different ends of bay to break or different reefs .
Just so you understand your coast is never going to see a SW swell that is classic in Ireland.
i recommend the Stormrider Guides either online or as books to acquaint you with various coasts.

[wat4zz]

hi

thanks for your answer
i'm a newbie.
was bodyboarding a few times in sylt.
i bought myself a board and wetsuit.
bought book: advanced surf fitness,
started making exercises on the bosu balance trainer and indo board (i use a piece of wood on a fascia roll)
started paddling training in my hometown and standing up on the board homez
i have the stormriderguide vol 1 and 2 and the book surfing the world

if everything goes right I maybe want to go to Klitmøller in denmark, then maybe france or portugal and hopefully attract some female sea lions.

you were at peniche already? is it suitable for beginners also (which season?) or should i go to sagres?

but my question in general is to experience different spots easily and save money that way.
maybe bodyboard, bodysurf some waves or just go swimming in waves.
also maybe some day want to live at a spot with these criterias.

peniche area sounds good let me know if you want to share other similar places

[jaffa1949]

Wazz, now we can get down to advising you properly.
Peniche has three areas within walking distance, great restaurants, and heaps of Van parking, air BnB, rooms, it is a scene and busy.
There are surf schools life guards and boards for hire!
There are easy spots and good learn parts of the beach , with sand, further up the beach there are areas of rock held sand. still safe.

Now your personal quest, learn three things as a beginning, how to read the surf and understand the dangers, learn to swim in the surf and body surf..
Most of this can be done in good shallow water, by all means bodyboard.
You are quite a long way from being barrel ready, it is really an expert skill!
Learn how to ride across waves of various types both backhand and forehand.
VERY IMPORTANT learn the rules and etiquette of surfing, as you will be in traffic, it will not be pleasant and down right dangerous if you don’t know this!

Even beginnings are great fun and exciting, go for it!

Post a picture of the board you bought, you may need some advice there too , often newbies are sold inappropriate boards for their level.
My aim is to get you surfing easily and safely, the wrong board will just hinder your progress!

[wat4zz]

nice, thanks for the infos.
i will send picture of my board tomorrow.
peniche sounds very good i will give it a try some day.
if someone knows other places please send

[Oldie]

Peniche is super with lots of options. Malibu looked to have super selection of spots too. Thagazout as well, but I will never go into the water in Marocco again Seignosse also is a good option, anything in France south of Bordeaux is good enough.

As you apparently have never surfed before, put the priority of swell variations a bit towards the future. You don't need great waves - they will never let you get a wave at worldclass peaks anyway. Decent waves are good enough.

I would advise to invest at least a few hours in lessons. Germanys best surf school is on Sylt (rideon), and they do a great comination of safety, ocean, weather and actual surf basics. This is very different than bodyboarding.

Cold Hawaii is of course an option, often better than Sylt with a better chance to get ground swell remainders sneaking in between Scotland and Norway. Thyboron has nice longboard spots (which I hope you bought as a beginner....). But still the North Sea remains 99% windswell soup.

[wat4zz]

hy, thanks4infos

thagazout looks like a nice village
was the water polluted or just smelly feets of the people?^^
prices are okay there
how was the overall experience?

malibu prices not possible

you know about shark attacks in these areas?

i want to at least at the beginning ride waves on sandy bottom
but every other places with different wave type possibilites (and maybe also swell on the next beach, if there is no swell on the other, other feeling and outlook) still good to know for the future

i think i might try klitmöller or hvide sande, something west denmark first
(after standing up on board relatively good, surf fitness book exercises - ankle, knee strength etc. really good, paddling stamina better, also have a surf skateboard)
and then france, portugal etc. looking very nice

peniche offers lifestyle possibilities.

you are mentioning seignosse
found this on surf-forecast.com
Les Bourdaines in Acquitaine is an exposed beach/jetty break that usually has waves and can work at any time of the year.
Type:
beach/jetty

what means jetty?

and also:
Les Estagnots in Acquitaine is an exposed beach brea......etc..etc....When the surf is up, crowds are likely Overcrowding can even make surfing hazardous.

what exactly means crowd? people that are looking from the distance cant be meant here right?
i mean how could that be hazardous.
so just means people surfing and swimming there?

But the next spot under this:
Hossegor - La Nord in Landes is a beach break. Offshore winds blow from the east southeast. Waves just as likely from local windswells as from distant groundswells and the ideal swell angle is from the west northwest. The beach breaks offer lefts and rights. The quality of the surf isn't affected by the tide. Even when there are waves, it's not likley to be crowded. <------

and then next spot down:
Hossegor - La Graviere in Landes is a sandbar break that has reasonably consistent surf. etc...........etc...... Overcrowding can even make surfing hazardous.

you was at seignosse already,? which spot is best for beginners, consistent and what season?

[jaffa1949]

Crowd = eine Menge Leute, and they are all in the water. 99% will be better than you, you will will trying to drive a VW Käfer on the formula one track.

Jetty bedeutet Steg, and has lots of things to injure you, Tagazout has sewerage running over the rocks you have walk across to surf! Cut foot means septic wound..

The other major hazard of which you are currently one, is absolute learners from everywhere in Europe, they have no idea of safety, how to paddle out , they throw away their surfboards at the first crisis, they don’t understand which way the surfer riding the wave is going to go and the best way to avoid collisions.
Multiply that by the numbers in the water, and the risks increase,, which is often why surf schools have designated training areas and soft boards.

Can you swim?
Surfboards with leashes are not Wasserrettung devices, they have fins hard edges and leashes break leaving you to swim in.
Please go to a school, learn about how beaches waves and currents work, learn the basics, learn the rules, think your local schools,when you are driving on the Autobahn you don’t think about how to drive in Australia.

Here is a good day in Baleal

This is one of about 5 spots in walking distance

This is the learners area and Menge!

[wat4zz]

hello, thanks for additional informations.
at the moment im reading much about surfing and bodyboarding(weather forecast books included)
began swimming very early as a child and was always swimming very fast
yes i have to learn about the rip currents and stuff like that
need to learn how to duckdive and not make mistakes like other people, throwing my board in other peoples faces.
i will learn that in swimming pool and safe places where no one else is.
thanks for the info about softboards, now i know why they are soft

wow many people in there, you were often in peniche already?
what about the water quality?
there seem to be two harbours, for sailors, fishers and some cargo ships.
can the water flow from the ships-side over to the baleal area through the 'canal' on windy days?
does wetsuits give protection in dirty waters?

[jaffa1949]

Please think you can learn how to duck dive , push your board under water, but you need a wave to get the timing right and have the wave help push you deep enough.
The size of the board is important too, for a novice a board small enough to duck dive is not big enough to learn to ride on!
So the get out skill is turtle rolling!

Peniche/Baleal has beaches running from south of the Harbour Supertubos, sand tubes, but only in the hands of Pros and very good surfer,.
The harbour water doesn’t pollute the other beaches, but the right wind you can smell the sardine factory.
Baleal has a beach north and south of its island the south beach runs down the coast to Peniche, quite a few beach breaks along this stretch, , surf shops and surf schools. Being a long sandy beach it changes with conditions wind and swell direction and size.
The Baleal island is that at high tide and connected to the mainland at low tide by a driveable causeway, each side is swell direction dependent.
North is the surf school area with the number people that then run north to a nice sand and reef break , ther other picture Lagide, then there are beaches of sand interspersed with jutting reef formations , running as far as you can see north. Little coves with good waves but no Wasserrettung,

That about covers Peniche /Baleal

[wat4zz]

very nice. thanks.

so i think this answered my questions, but if anyone knows similar places, just drop them in the thread

[Oldie]

The size of the board is important too, for a novice a board small enough to duck dive is not big enough to learn to ride on!
So the get out skill is turtle rolling!

I somehow have a feeling the OP bought a shortboard - right?

[Oldie]

Peniche/Baleal has beaches running from south of the Harbour Supertubos, sand tubes, but only in the hands of Pros and very good surfer,.
The harbour water doesn’t pollute the other beaches, but the right wind you can smell the sardine factory.
Baleal has a beach north and south of its island the south beach runs down the coast to Peniche, quite a few beach breaks along this stretch, , surf shops and surf schools. Being a long sandy beach it changes with conditions wind and swell direction and size.

The smell of the sardine factory can be quite bad....

The spots south of Peniche are quite fast, even Bananas. Lots of very good surfers dominate the peaks and the shorebreak is heavy.

Plenty of friendly spots to the North, though.

[jaffa1949]

The size of the board is important too, for a novice a board small enough to duck dive is not big enough to learn to ride on!
So the get out skill is turtle rolling!

I somehow have a feeling the OP bought a shortboard - right?

Don’t know yet!

[wat4zz]

hello,

I have a very old board with sail but i use without sail.
got it for free.
it's about 2,70 meter long and wider.
i need to walk with it through the forest to arrive at beach.
Its out of plastic (not soft)
But for paddling i use a shortboard which is 6'0.
My car can only hold maximum 2,20 meter board.
first exercised standing up on bodyboard in swimming pool, no problems
with 2.7 meter board also no problem
with shortboard also no problem, but shitty waves here so just can stand on the board
If have not much money guys.
if you have old shitty softboard for some bucks, let me know

[wat4zz]

i would like if we could keep the discussion about the surf-spots with different wavetypes in this thread.
can we move the other discussions to another thread?

[jaffa1949]

i would like if we could keep the discussion about the surf-spots with different wavetypes in this thread.
can we move the other discussions to another thread?

Been done for you, but you need Only a basic wave, the questions are to direct you to a safe answer.!

Bitte hören sie dieses!

[wat4zz]

of course that is understood and im thankful for the informations and will have fun with the tips in the water.
this is just the moment and i'm already planning the future