Duck Diving Technique on a Wide and Thick Fish Surfboard

[Mclaw3]

Hello Surfers of the Internet,

I find duck diving my fish a problem. The dimension of the fish is 5'10" x 21 1/8 x 2 9/16. Yes, it's wide and thick. I'm 5'10" and 144lb. I ride all types of boards which is probably why I haven't practiced my duck diving enough (I turtle-roll on bigger boards). I do okay if the wave hasn't broken or is just about to break. However, when it has broken, the white water gets me most of the time. I do okay with surfing overall but am self-conscious when I mess up my duck dive while other surfers scoop right under the wave. I also don't want t turtle -roll the fish, but I do sometimes because I'm pretty good at that. I suspect my problem is the wide tail of the fish which I can't sink fast enough. I have also attached the photo of the fish herein for reference. Please provide some pointers.

Thanks!

[oldmansurfer]

Not answering your question exactly but all of the boards I ride have too much volume to duckdive. I do a maneuver that I have heard is called a half duck dive but on this forum it has been called a duck dip. What I do is to shive the nose straight down far enough to clear the force of the wave then I dive down with the board as the wave hits. The wave hits my rear end and the back end of the board and pushes it down and I pull up on the nose and at that point I am under the force of the wave and come up just like someone doing a duck dive except for some reason I sit back up on the board and come out sitting on the board. I didn't always do this and used to come up just like a duck dive but I am pretty deep and I guess I want to see what the next wave is doing so I am already up and able to look out over the waves as soon as the water runs off my eyes. It may be that you should be able to duckdive a board like that but I am not familiar with it enough to say. But if you can't learn then there is always this other similar technique.

[Mclaw3]

Thanks, Oldman! I will try the duck dip tomorrow. Good thing my home break is a point break.

[waikikikichan]

1) Are you using your Knee or your Foot to push the tail down ?

2) Is it only the Fish that you have a problem with ?

3) What is wrong with Turtle-rolling the fish ?