Spastic backside, sort of trying to pump

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Re: Spastic backside, sort of trying to pump

Postby pmcaero » Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:19 pm

waikikikichan wrote:

You CAN do all those things on the 7'9" BIC that you currently own and are not using.


yes but why would I do them on the Bic when I have a shortboard I can catch waves with? The Bic is not that great at letting me catch a wave early and thus giving me more time to practice. Sure, in fatter waves like we get sometimes it might get in a little earlier than the shortboard, but on the wave itself it's not helping me turn. Today I was able to get more time on a couple waves (so, good for learning, right), because I was on my shortboard and was able to do a quick bottom turn , or pump over a flat section. My maneuvers were probably not the most efficient, and would look funny on video had I been able to capture any, but the important part is that I was able to change my direction and speed in a responsive manner and handle the quirks of the wave for an extended ride.
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Re: Spastic backside, sort of trying to pump

Postby RinkyDink » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:26 am

pmcaero wrote:
waikikikichan wrote:

You CAN do all those things on the 7'9" BIC that you currently own and are not using.


yes but why would I do them on the Bic when I have a shortboard I can catch waves with? The Bic is not that great at letting me catch a wave early and thus giving me more time to practice. Sure, in fatter waves like we get sometimes it might get in a little earlier than the shortboard, but on the wave itself it's not helping me turn. Today I was able to get more time on a couple waves (so, good for learning, right), because I was on my shortboard and was able to do a quick bottom turn , or pump over a flat section. My maneuvers were probably not the most efficient, and would look funny on video had I been able to capture any, but the important part is that I was able to change my direction and speed in a responsive manner and handle the quirks of the wave for an extended ride.

Keep doing what you're doing if its working for you and you're improving. However, you should probably stop asking how you can generate more speed while riding mush on a shortboard. The answer to that question is simply that you'll only go as fast as the wave and board will let you. As far as I know, there is no magic surfing technique to improve that reality.
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Re: Spastic backside, sort of trying to pump

Postby pmcaero » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:06 pm

RinkyDink wrote:Keep doing what you're doing if its working for you and you're improving. However, you should probably stop asking how you can generate more speed while riding mush on a shortboard.


you're right, of course. The hurricane swells we've gotten thus far have been pretty mushy. Here's me yesterday after running out of speed on what was actually a nice ride in the beginning. I wish I had gotten the whole thing on camera. I managed to force the board down the face and then make a backside bottom-turn towards the end of the ride.

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Re: Spastic backside, sort of trying to pump

Postby dtc » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:37 pm

You could possibly have just weighted your front foot heavily and perhaps thrown your arms forward and achieved the same result - just like in skateboarding you lean down the hill not up the hill (and running out of speed before the wave closes out suggests something went wrong earlier in the wave, but that happens of course, we aren't always perfect!)

But you made it so that is a success!
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Re: Spastic backside, sort of trying to pump

Postby RinkyDink » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:25 pm

pmcaero wrote: Here's me yesterday after running out of speed on what was actually a nice ride in the beginning. I wish I had gotten the whole thing on camera. I managed to force the board down the face and then make a backside bottom-turn towards the end of the ride.
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Definitely looks like a better wave. I think you should focus on top-to-bottom surfing rather than pumping (pumping just comes to me intuitively- I never consciously think about it). Take off on waves that will let you get off a bottom turn and go back up the face of the wave. Hopefully, you'll be able to get off a maneuver and go back down the wave.These vids have been helpful to me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK867JydaBg (top-to-bottom surfing)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiBng0XZvUM (speed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNskfkudkL8 (top-to-bottom surfing)
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Re: Spastic backside, sort of trying to pump

Postby oldmansurfer » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:09 pm

If you didn't get to do a bottom turn till the end of the ride then you didn't take off deep enough and instead got hung up on the shoulder waiting for it to get steeper. What you need is to take off where it is steeper then you will start with a bottom turn and then maybe can do more than that on the wave. It looks to me like you should have been 6 feet deeper in the wave to takeoff.
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Re: Spastic backside, sort of trying to pump

Postby pmcaero » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:15 pm

oldmansurfer wrote:If you didn't get to do a bottom turn till the end of the ride then you didn't take off deep enough


this was towards the end of the ride, I think I managed two bottom turns :) I wish it had captured the whole thing as it was a long ride that started at the peak and would have been a better example for you guys to give me pointers.
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Re: Spastic backside, sort of trying to pump

Postby pmcaero » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:17 pm

RinkyDink wrote:Hopefully, you'll be able to get off a maneuver and go back down the wave.These vids have been helpful to me.


thanks, I have been looking for something like this
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