Confused on standing up

[LOLRuss]

In defense of the one-knee... its the only way us fat fleshin' can stand. Working on the 'pop' but at least I can get rides in from one knee in the meantime.

LOL...didn't you just start a thread about how rashed your knees are....is this what you are defending?????

Hey, I'm not defending it 6 hours straight

[rich r]

there is no reason someone shouldn't be able to start to stand in whitewater - longboard or shortboard.

If you can't, then you are missing out on another critical aspect - paddling for the wave.

Practicing in the whitewater can help you learn that 'feeling' of when you're getting picked up by the wave, and thus the right time to pop up. It also demands a bit more of a paddle, and learning timing by watching when the foam is approaching, etc..

All things that translate into moving out to the shoulder and then eventually into the lineup near the peak.

[LOLRuss]

there is no reason someone shouldn't be able to start to stand in whitewater - longboard or shortboard.

If you can't, then you are missing out on another critical aspect - paddling for the wave.

Practicing in the whitewater can help you learn that 'feeling' of when you're getting picked up by the wave, and thus the right time to pop up. It also demands a bit more of a paddle, and learning timing by watching when the foam is approaching, etc..

All things that translate into moving out to the shoulder and then eventually into the lineup near the peak.

This varies by locale - where I surf, the breaks usually don't push very far. There is an outer sandbar, and if you try to stand up in white water you've often got about 2 seconds to do so before the white water ends and the wave calms and its not rideable again until it re-breaks on shore way inside. 2 seconds wasn't enough for me. So finally I ignored this advice, and went out and learned to get waves in the green, just before they broke. Only THEN was I able to learn the pop-up.

So this varies. Its not universal that its best to catch whitewater first until you get the pop-up. Some places don't have good whitewater. The whitewater was good for about two days of practice. After that I needed to be out catching them just before they broke. I think its that way everywhere in Florida.

[isaluteyou]

ive always considered the whhitewater as just an orientation area. A plae where you can get used to the feel of the board and the water. But real surfing is done on green waves

[RJD]

You want to be surfing clean waves, yes whitewaetr has its place, but yoru best IMO to get out onto clean waves even if there tiny. Drop/takeoff is totaly different and requires all the techniques you need to ride a proper wave, which you dont and cant use on whitewater.

[parrysurf]

Waikiki is an example of a perfect learning wave.....mellow not steep, rolls forever. can get green face and can go out back and catch some god rides

Ventura has it's own version...Mondos, that is where I have been teaching my kids. Best beginner break on the coast as far as I have seen. Mellow friendly vibe always.

[garbarrage]

most definitely there is a world of difference between the 2, but i still think that if you can't get to your feet in whitewater then you have no hope of doing it on a green face.

if like Lolruss, you have no other options then you'll have to make do, but it literally took me 3 sessions before i was standing and turning on whitewater... fully sure it would have taken way longer on green waves.