Interesting....

[tomcat360]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=53028

take a look!

[soops]

I totally agree with this guy. People are so short sited and guided by media spin that they cant see how lucky we all are to live in the western world!

Nice find Tomcat

[^*^BATMAN^*^]

[whine] but i dont have perfect cell coverage everywhere i go, and there is polution in the mega cities, and there is a blackout like 2-3 times a year......[/whine]

[Real Pol]

No wonder the world loves the U.S. yet has a great disdain for its citizens

He's got this round the wrong way, the world has a great distain for the U.S. specifically the government, not the individual citizens

Is this the same president who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11?

Pro-Bushers always go on about this, but really, tell me what he did regarding 9/11 that no other president would have done?

How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?

Really? I'm not envious and I don't imagine anyone else from out side America on this forum would disagree with me. What did he base this "fact" on?

The only thing I'd agree with in the artical is negative reporting, but we have that problem everywhere.

[Real Pol]

And on the same page there is an advert for Anti-Communism t-shirts.

So oppressing a political view is part of the "political freedom" we're meant to be envious of!?!



(Have I missed really obvious irony in this article?)

[^*^BATMAN^*^]

Well Georgie Dubyas actions aside, he makes a good point. People in the 'western" countries are generaly oblivious to the luxorious lifestyle we lead. So due to this ignorance, the think they are hard done by.....but that is just a societal norm that I am sure has always existed.

[drowningbitbybit]

His point is valid about us (the western world) moaning, but the pro-US nonsense is sickening.

[tomcat360]

Do you all think that by "western world" he means more than just the US? I know that he is specifically speaking of the US, but isn't there other countries that function just the same way? The US, Canada, UK, and pretty much all the other countries that people live in that access this site have very similar cultures, technologically speaking and such. (seeing we have the money, resources, time, etc to be on a website specifically about surfing, which its self is a luxury)

I originally got this in an email form, saying that it was written by Jay Leno. It was a bit changed around as well. So I guess the email was wrong and said that Jay Leno wrote it, although it appears this guy did.

I think the super conservative shirt ads were simply coincidental....the article can be found on all sorts of sites, but many liberals like to deny the existance of this, although a liberal read it on national TV.

I agree I thought that the line was backwards about liking the US but not the citizens. After the conversations on here I have had it tends to be exactly opposite.

Really? I'm not envious and I don't imagine anyone else from out side America on this forum would disagree with me. What did he base this "fact" on?

Have you read Kiterunner by chance? Great novel, give it a read. Anyways, my point there, the narrator grew up in Afganistan in the 80s (I think) and he speaks constantly about how western culture is constantly embraced. Western movies, western clothing, etc. Later in the novel someone says to him "he was never really an Afgan, he wanted to be American the whole time". The novel was a biography, or semi-biographicacl atleast, can't rembmer.

[drowningbitbybit]

Do you all think that by "western world" he means more than just the US? I know that he is specifically speaking of the US, but isn't there other countries that function just the same way? The US, Canada, UK, and pretty much all the other countries that people live in that access this site have very similar cultures, technologically speaking and such. (seeing we have the money, resources, time, etc to be on a website specifically about surfing, which its self is a luxury)

Yeah, thats exactly the point. You seem to be an exception, but a lot of americans do think that the USA is 'special', which it isnt. Its just bigger.

He says...

No wonder the world loves the U.S. yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don't have and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.

...so, yes, he is talking about the US. "Most blessed people in the world"?


Now I dont want to get into another anti-US slanging match, Im just slagging this individual off...


But the point about 'stop moaning, be happy you miserable fleshers' is still valid

[tomcat360]

But the point about 'stop moaning, be happy you miserable fleshers' is still valid

Amen

[Driftingalong]

Man this guy just doesn't get it.

What because we enjoy the things he's listed we're just supposed to be content to allow the administration to run amok and do what ever they want?...


And yeah he sounds like one of those real arrogant American a$$holes.

[northswell]

I think his ramblings are a little shortsighted. If people didn't have things to moan about it would mean we are contented in our suroundings, if everyone was happy there would be no need for invention and innovation that keeps the world and our civilitation going.

[Real Pol]

Do you all think that by "western world" he means more than just the US?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong (nicely please). The term "western" and "the west" originates from exploring days when Europe was considered the west and Asia, specifically China and India (large trading countries) were the east or far east. I'm sure America was added to this somewhere along the line. But now the meaning of "the west" encompasses most fully developed countries; most of Europe, U.S, Canada, NZ, Oz etc.

It has nothing to do with cowboys.

[tomcat360]

Yes, that was what I was trying to say, just clarifying that, making sure ya'll didn't think I was saying "western" as in the US only. I meant western culture, as in developed countries in Europe and North America.

New Zealand, Oz, as well, they're just kinda geographically out there

[gdude335]

one thing that i dont like about this article is:
He says 63% of people dont like the way the nation is heading.
those people dont like the way the nation is HEADING, not the way it IS. There is a big difference. You could write exactly the same thing about a nation that is losing half its territory!
he says 69% of americans dont like the president. His support on this is weak.

[Otter]

Happiness is not a destination, but rather a manner of travel.

[Real Pol]

Yes, that was what I was trying to say

Us Westies are often on the same wavelength!