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Weed legal, or weed not legal?

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Postby k mac » Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:34 pm

also if cannabis was completely de crimilized ...wouldnt save the goverment money ?

less coppers dealing with petty weed dealers nad users less people bein sent down for crimes involving it less goverment money spent on keeping people in prison

Where i used to live they opend a cannibis cafe in stockport (cheeze youll probz know about it :wink: )

but it got closed down :o .....that would be the way foward :P
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Postby PapaW » Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:01 pm

It can all be related to the psycological elements... if people arn't alowed it the're goingto want it and in turn it gets abused.

Its the thinking behind the 24hour Alcohol licencing plans in the UK... to stop the binge drinking and people rushing to get wasted before the pubs close... Its spreads out the use of the substances and in the long term will settle out and people will be more responsible.
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Postby Phil » Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:29 pm

i thought the whole 24 hour liance thing was to stop the fights that happen as soon as the pubs kick out at 11pm now you wont get people flooding onto the streets i think its a good idea will stop alot of the viloance

Its one of the pros to doing it for deffo. At the end of the day its not that pubs will stay open 24hours etc... its just that pub, bars etc have the option to extend openeing hours as well as proviind in my view A far nicer environment to socilise in where you can actually hear what others are staying and don't come out with bleeding ears.. :p
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Postby babyboarder89 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:51 am

im not sure itll help-the fighters have all been out clubbing etc-lets face it theyre not likely to go clubbing at midday...just my 2 pence :D
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Postby Phil » Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:14 am

put the wont all poor out into the streets at 11pm when the pubs close i think it will help loads

ever been to torquay or union street walk down there as pubs kick out and you got a good chance of geting bottled
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Postby babyboarder89 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:19 pm

fair enough i dont have that kind of experience (thank god :shock: ) although i have had broken bottles thrown at me before-thats a story for another day- i understand that everyone wont be leaving at the same time but i still think that another result might be people staying longer-getting drunker anmd fighting more-or people hanging around all day drinking and leading to more alcohoil related illness and even more money for the NHS to spend on violent drunks.
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Postby West » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:36 am

You guys aren't very good at debating. No offense. =)

The thing about democracy is the freedom to choose. How can the government allow the people to drink alochol and smoke tobacco while not allow them to smoke weed. Marijuana is psychologically addictive, not like alcohol or tobacco which can cause very bad physical addictions. If people mess up while doing a drug it is their responsiblity. No use blaming the drug. That's like saying guns kill people which is quite humorous in my opinion. But gun control is for a different topic.

Vote libertarian if you live in the U.S.
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Postby CheeZee » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:22 pm

Guest : West :

We are'nt debating bro' but thanks for your imput !! :D
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Postby Lallylagirl » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:03 pm

Hmm, I´ve kind of missed the rest of this post but I´m not sure whether legalising is a good idea (although I´m not against it). I think its easy enough to get as it is - you can get it from my high school and it isn´t a particularly bad school. The penalities aren´t that bad either.

I just think if its legalised then a lot more people will smoke it and more kids will get into it. There will probably be more accidents on the roads aswell, due to people being stoned and driving. I know it would be illegal to smoke and drive but it doesn´t stop everyone does it?
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Postby PapaW » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:15 am

But when your wasted and trying to do anything you do it so slow your barly likly to cause any damage or hurt anyone.

Alchole on the other hang makes you think you can go faster etc.. and your reaction speeds are shot.
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Postby WaveJunkie » Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:37 am

Hazy_daze wrote:No no no, in my opinion legalizing weed will only make people move on to harder drugs.
You see, for the people who think its cool and rebelious to smoke weed, and get a rush from doing so, as soon as its legalized they 'rush' will disapear and they will begin looking for bigger and better highs, eg harder drugs. Which will only increase the, now more serious, drug problem in the country; not good for anyone.
Thats my view anyway :)


Sorry, but you're full of poop as the bottom of a bird cage.

I've been smoking pot since 1966. That's nearly 40 yrs of my 57 yr life . . .

No desire to do other drugs, none . . . I drink beer, but it's legal. No move to hard liquor or even wine.

The "gateway drug" model is pure horse poop.

In Oregon, here . . . USA, pot is the second largest cash crop after alfalfa. But pot is not legal, can't be taxed.

If it were legal, we'd put a heap of dealers out of business, have the crop regualated so it's not spiced up with stuff like speed and heroin . . .

And taxes . . . Presto, Oregon's revenue problems are gone for good.

We get to let all the prisoners in jail for pot offenses free . . . No more crowded jails.

Drug dealers out of business . . . They need to find real jobs.

And people like me, Ph.D. retired . . . get to smoke pot because it feels good. I could grow it on my 3.5 acres.

Amsterdam does it. No problems with pot smoking there. No huge moves to heroin, or speed . . .

Prostitution is legal in Amsterdam too. No sex crazed maniacs getting into the pimp business . . .

There's a demand. There's always been a demand.

There should be a lawful supply.
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Postby gulfsurfer » Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:39 am

very good points there..
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Postby CheeZee » Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:44 am

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" yep with you all the way there my man " :D
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Postby k mac » Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:02 am

this dudes on the ball 8)
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Postby gulfsurfer » Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:25 pm

heck yes he is
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Postby PapaW » Sat Aug 20, 2005 6:34 pm

Sums up all my opinions in one swoop... Here Here :)
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Postby johil d'o » Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:53 am

Good heavens, there are some stupid people on here. "I smoked weed first, then moved on to harder things. Therefore it is a 'gateway' drug to bigger drugs." Duh. Milk was a gateway drug in your example, as you moved from your mama's bosom on to harder things. It's just a sequence of living and experiencing life. It's no more inevitable that you'll do heroin after smoking pot than it is that you'll take up golf. In fact it's a lot less likely!!!! So pot leads to golf. WTF? Didn't you people attend college?
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Postby surf patrol » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:41 am

johil d'o wrote:Good heavens, there are some stupid people on here.

Nothing quite like starting on the right foot eh :roll:
I have smoked weed before but to be honest it didn't really do anything for me. I think that being a non (tobacco) smoker sets you at a disadvantage. (Yes I know you can eat it).
I like a drink and think that alcohol, because it is legal, is a much more sociable vice and therefore one I enjoy much more. I've got nothing against weed smokers and I'd rather be in a street that was turning out a load of dopers at closing time than a load of pissed up fighters any day of the week.
That said, anyone who says that smoking weed does not have it's risks is just plain ill informed. Studies show there are real risks from smoking dope - just as there are in tobacco, alcohol, heroin etc.
Excess of anything in life can lead to problems (surfing excluded of course :wink: ) - I'm an anything in moderation guy.
So. As for should it be legalised?
I say yes. Get it taxed so us non weed smokers can benefit get some benefit :D . Even if it does have some negative health problems associated with it put it down to the choice of the individual. Compare it to the legal alcohol and it is a far better choice for an unobtrusive vice.
Right, I'm gonna crack open a bevvie and advise any of youse tokers out there to stay off that weed. Here endeth my longest post.

dam those drugs
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Postby k mac » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:25 pm

scones :shock:

i have night mares about scones...the lunch shift ...it rains...half of cornwall comes for a bleedin cream tea :shock: and guess who makes those....
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