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Board Graphics

Posted:
Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:02 pm
by pault
Okay I've had a bit of a search, but didn't find the answer I was looking for.
When doing surfboard graphics like on the Salamon noseless board, which is more complicated graphic arts, how is this done?
The only way I can think of it is a vinyl print / cut of the design which is stuck to the board then glassed over. Is that right or do shapers and artists stencil and layer it on with paint before glassing?

Posted:
Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:07 pm
by kitesurfer
Well im not sure what construction techniques are used on this particular board but most pop out style boards and eps epoxy boards have the grahics sprayed straight onto the deck.
KS

Posted:
Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:16 pm
by bluesnowcone
thoes boards are like strong clastic hollow with corbon fiber struts rining widnth ways, and the graphics are just on the plastics, well thats what i can tell from my mates one

Posted:
Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:19 pm
by IdRatherBeSurfing
bluesnowcone wrote:thoes boards are like strong clastic hollow with corbon fiber struts rining widnth ways, and the graphics are just on the plastics, well thats what i can tell from my mates one
and the prize for the worst spelling ever goes to.......

sorry dude, you make me smile with nearly every post, especially the "i saw a man" one. Top bloke you are


Posted:
Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:22 am
by pault
Cheers peeps, i forgot to mention the Lost boards aswell, they seem to really acid trip style designs.
I remember on Big Wednesday when Bear starts glassing one of his boards, that he puts a loose print of his logo on the deck then lays the cloth.
I'm always curious because I work in manufacturing so I love to know how things are made and put together. Especially the Salomon being heat ceiled with the carbon stringers intersting techniques.

Posted:
Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:38 pm
by bluesnowcone
IdRatherBeSurfing wrote:bluesnowcone wrote:thoes boards are like strong clastic hollow with corbon fiber struts rining widnth ways, and the graphics are just on the plastics, well thats what i can tell from my mates one
and the prize for the worst spelling ever goes to.......

sorry dude, you make me smile with nearly every post, especially the "i saw a man" one. Top bloke you are

well im only 14 so spelling aint realy my speshilist subject, its sort of understandable
iv only just realised how bad my spelling was there

Posted:
Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:57 pm
by GowerCharger
as theyre mass-produced im guessing theyre screen printed on, dunno how lost do their boards but one of the shapers down here does some pretty impressive graphics on his boards, look like their airbrushed on but i imagine that adds a fair bit to the price tag.

Posted:
Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:20 am
by gdude335
to paint you can use an airbrush, but you have to do some complicated stuff, take off a layer, pain, put layer back on.

Posted:
Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:51 am
by kitesurfer
Custom polyester surfboards are generall airbrushed before glassing. Something i'm currently just starting out on. See phils new longboard photos and where is that postman with my copy of airbrushing 101 got to?
But you cab also spray up a finished board using acrylic spray paints after it's been finished but you need to sand it first and then apply a sealing (note the spelling paul i think ur spelling maybe getting as bad as bluesnowcones these days

) coat/laquer to prevent the design coming off once u start using the board. I guess the same technique could be used on other types of boards if you wanted.
KS

Posted:
Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:32 pm
by Johnny B
bluesnowcone wrote: well im only 14 so spelling aint realy my
speshilist subject, its sort of understandable

iv only just realised how bad my spelling was there
Speshilist! Is that meant to be a joke Blusnowcone!? If it is it was a good one!

Also, it's almost an anagram off spell sh1t!!

Posted:
Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:44 pm
by xswind
Well it does depend on the construction, it could just be sprayed on but if it looks like it is under something then it could done using a process called sub-lamination.
There is a campany in Aus that sublaminates glass fibre but I do not remember the name

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:52 pm
by el_marko
On boards like the salamon noseless the graphics are screen printed. On a board like a lost, they glass them and then paint it with an airbrush or paint pens and then apply the hot coat. Thats why the artwork doesn't seem like it's under the glass or on top of it.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:53 pm
by TicTac
xswind wrote:Well it does depend on the construction, it could just be sprayed on but if it looks like it is under something then it could done using a process called sub-lamination.
There is a campany in Aus that sublaminates glass fibre but I do not remember the name
I very much doubt that has been sprayed, if it has then it must take an age to spray it, im not too sure you could do sprays that detailed but im new to that area so i dont know much about it.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:09 pm
by RUSS-D
Thees are from the Shaper working on my new board. I am doing a Tiki/Bamboo theme on mine. I'll post pics when it is done, should be end of next week or mid-week the following week. The guy is soooo friggin good at shaping, and spay'n.


Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:56 pm
by kitesurfer
el_marko wrote: On a board like a lost, they glass them and then paint it with an airbrush or paint pens and then apply the hot coat. Thats why the artwork doesn't seem like it's under the glass or on top of it.
Highly unlikely that they spray or use paint pens straight onto the glass as it's allways an uneven surface and also very tacky. Paint pens are used on the hotcoats and then a clear laquer can be put over the top and airbrushing is done before glassing.
KS

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:37 pm
by Matt-Grom
those graphics are nice
Woo!

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:08 pm
by Tom-Irons
Pault Im in love with your boards!

They are the best i have ever seen!

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:13 pm
by Matt-Grom
they are nice but i like russ d's the best
Re: Woo!

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:25 pm
by pault
Tom-Irons wrote:Pault Im in love with your boards!

They are the best i have ever seen!
Ha right now I have 1 1/2 boards my BIC minimal and my awesome Flyer Kitey is making me
I do quite a bit of arty stuff in my spare time, so I love to know how things are done. I'll see if I can dig out a video I found of a guy using the Paint Pns on the hot coat then spraying a clear coat on top pretty funky design.
Wow

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:29 pm
by Tom-Irons
Wicked! Ill look forward to it. I'm almost a retard when it comes to art

I'd never have the guts to spray a board i was going to use cus i'd know that i would look like i fell in a paint bucket or something.