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5/4 or 4/3 wetsuit

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:26 am
by Gazelle1
I've been surfing for a couple of years and would like to invest in a wetsuit, but can't decide which one to get. I'll mostly be surfing in summer and autumn in Cornwall and Devon, but I really really feel the cold! I was leaning towards the 5/4 wetsuit, however, I've heard this can restrict movement a bit so was wondering whether I should go for the 4/3 instead. How much would a 5/4 restrict movement when surfing?

Is O'Neill a decent brand to go for?

Re: 5/4 or 4/3 wetsuit

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:04 pm
by BaNZ
I use 4/3 in Autumn. When it gets to around 12C is when I start using 5/4. Yes it really restricts the movement and takes the fun out of surfing. I got multiple wetsuits and different brands. Billabong, Oneil, rip curl, xcel, quiksilver. At the end of the day I don't see any difference in quality. I usually go for the £100-200 range.

Re: 5/4 or 4/3 wetsuit

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:48 pm
by BoMan
Agree with BANZ about the 5/4 restricting your movements. In winter I feel like the Michelin Man! That said, it's all about your tolerance for cold. It's no fun to shiver in the wind during a long lull and you won't make good decisions when the set arrives.

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I look at the forecast water temperature and wear a 4/3 when it's above 57° F and use a 5/4 when it's colder. I also favor the thicker suit in stronger wind and when I'm planning a long session. Your preference will be different.

Re: 5/4 or 4/3 wetsuit

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:01 pm
by Gazelle1
Thank you, that's really helpful. So perhaps the 4/3 would be better - is that thickness ok in terms of not being too restrictive?

Re: 5/4 or 4/3 wetsuit

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:40 pm
by tomthetreeman
They are all different... A 4/3 with a lining and chest protection could be just as warm as a 5/4 without those things. Chest zip suits typically take on a bit less water, so if you’re on the fence, look for a 4/3 chest zip lined suit with the additional protection in the chest area, these things make a difference.

Tom

Re: 5/4 or 4/3 wetsuit

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:24 pm
by waikikikichan
Gazelle1 wrote: but I really really feel the cold! I was leaning towards the 5/4 wetsuit, however, I've heard this can restrict movement a bit so was wondering whether I should go for the 4/3 instead. How much would a 5/4 restrict movement when surfing?

So would you rather choose being cold so you can move around more ? That is the dilemma you are facing warmth vs. flexibility. I have always been one wetsuit level above everyone else in the water here in Japan since I'm from Hawaii. When others are in 3/2mm, I'm still in my 4/3mm. And how much "restrictive" are we talking about ? Are you worried about the paddling restrictiveness or when you go to do a full wrapping round house cutback restrictiveness ?

Gazelle1 wrote:Thank you, that's really helpful. So perhaps the 4/3 would be better - is that thickness ok in terms of not being too restrictive?

"Ok" is general broad relative description. Is the Food served OK ? Is the clothes brand OK ? What is okay for someone may not be okay for others. If you plan to surf for only 1 hour, I don't think you need to worry about being restrictive. The thing you need to know is the more you spend, the better the flexibility is ( but sometimes not the longevity ) in wetsuits.

That said, the most "restrictive" thing is when your joints are stiff from being too cold. Go warmer.

Re: 5/4 or 4/3 wetsuit

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:09 am
by BaNZ
waikikikichan wrote: I have always been one wetsuit level above everyone else in the water here in Japan since I'm from Hawaii. When others are in 3/2mm, I'm still in my 4/3mm.


Can't agree more. I learnt how to surf in Taiwan where the water temp gets to 28-30 in summer. Surfers here go without a wetsuit when it is 22C and I'm in a 3/2 but shivering.

I've also met people from Sweden/Switzerland who went without a wetsuit at 16C claiming that it is so warm.

Everyone have different cold tolerance.

Re: 5/4 or 4/3 wetsuit

PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:15 am
by Oldie
As you have been surfing for a couple of years in Devon & Cornwall, which thickness did you wear? I cannot imagine you surfing without a wetsuit? DId you feel warm or not in those?

In the Dutch North Sea and the French/Spanish Atlantic, I take a 3/2 in summer and a 4/3 in autumn. Pondering to get a 5/4 for December & April for the North sea as that cools down fast and waves can be better. And I have a shorty for hot summer days in France. But as others said, it mostly depends on your own tolerance for cold.

Re: 5/4 or 4/3 wetsuit

PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:54 am
by Prancing monkey
Should be fine in a 4/3 in summer and autumn. I wore a 3/2 at watergate bay & crantock in September last year and was toasty; you would probably boil in a 5/4 in late summer / early autumn. Might need some boots for early June though. However if you want to surf in winter and spring you will definitely need a 5/4.