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Postby DreamSurf » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:13 am

so i ordered a cool wax for surfboarding and nowhere does it say anything else so it seems pretty standard to me.
after some research and following some guides on the net i was amazed and shocked that there are various elements of how to wax and there are different types of waxes.
now i ordered this one

http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/29110058071 ... EBIDX%3AIT

is this a basecoat? nowhere does it say that.

so im surprised with the new things incoming. is it mandatory to use a top coat as well. or is the first layer enough? or does it depend on where you ride and what climate it is? my guess is that i got the standard first layer basecoat? will that suffice for me going all the way down to half france? or is a top coat adviced?

and why does everyone wax his own way LOL. i mean there are some guides on the net. but i have been lurking on this forum and there seem to be so many ways. is there a way that applies to all weather conditions? so that i dont have to change my ways every time?
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby Big H » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:58 am

Make sure the wax you choose is for the right water temperature....check the internet for the temps of your intended destination at the time that you plan to be there. There is a lot to be said for technique as far as waxing goes....different wax combinations, some applied in circles, some in opposing cross hatches, using different pressure at different stages with the goal to build bumps rather than a smooth wax coat.....Wchan had a great post on the subject that made me consider pressure and immediately impacted the quality of my wax jobs. Search it out here on the site; worth a read.
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby oldmansurfer » Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:19 pm

There are so many choices these days. Back when I started surfing there was just paraffin which was sold for canning vegetables. People would cook vegetables and put them in jars and seal the top of the jar with melted wax which when cooled formed a airtight seal under the jar top. I always carried a bar of wax out with me because you would need to reapply wax if you surfed long enough. Now I don't surf that long I wax before the beach and always have a heavy layer of wax on my boards. Plus there are varieties of wax. Currently I use Sticky Bumps for tropical waters and sometimes I use a base coat or not. I used to use Sex wax for warm water temperatures but I usually get whatever they have in the store I am at (Walmart or whatever)
So what is worse.... dying or regretting it for the rest of my life? Obviously I chose not regretting it.
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby DreamSurf » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:34 pm

oldmansurfer wrote:There are so many choices these days. Back when I started surfing there was just paraffin which was sold for canning vegetables. People would cook vegetables and put them in jars and seal the top of the jar with melted wax which when cooled formed a airtight seal under the jar top. I always carried a bar of wax out with me because you would need to reapply wax if you surfed long enough. Now I don't surf that long I wax before the beach and always have a heavy layer of wax on my boards. Plus there are varieties of wax. Currently I use Sticky Bumps for tropical waters and sometimes I use a base coat or not. I used to use Sex wax for warm water temperatures but I usually get whatever they have in the store I am at (Walmart or whatever)


most definetly!!!!! i do not know what this wax is made off. can you make it? is there a cheap way to do it. cause why buy when you can make it yourself right?
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby oldmansurfer » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:48 pm

Surf wax isn't very expensive but something I do to make it last longer is to save the small pieces left over and melt them back down to recycle them. I put them in a flexible plastic cup and place it in a pot with low layer of water then gradually bring the temperature up in the pot and remove the wax once it's all melted. Let it harden and pop it out and there is another bar of wax to use.
So what is worse.... dying or regretting it for the rest of my life? Obviously I chose not regretting it.
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby billie_morini » Fri Sep 09, 2016 2:30 am

fromsk82surf wrote:so i ordered a cool wax for surfboarding and nowhere does it say anything else so it seems pretty standard to me.
after some research and following some guides on the net i was amazed and shocked that there are various elements of how to wax and there are different types of waxes.
now i ordered this one ...


In the good old days, things were not so complicated! Once upon a time, we used plain old paraffin wax. It was okay that coconut was added, as well as a little bit of bee hive wax. But, criminey! (or "Blimey" if you are in the UK)

So many things are like this today that it tires the sole. I'll tease you young folks. Isn't there an App for board wax?!
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby Big H » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:43 am

billie_morini wrote:So many things are like this today that it tires the sole. I'll tease you young folks. Isn't there an App for board wax?!


Hahahaha.....no app Billie....but there is this....

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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby saltydog » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:43 am

Top coat needs to match the water temp. Base coat would be 2-3 tiers warmer water kind than your top coat. So for me, cool water for top and tropic water for base. I use sex wax... that's what I bought 20 years ago when I used to windsurf so I'm sticking (pun!) to it. There are WAY too many options these days I'd rather not think too much about it. But with booties on I can slack off on wax.
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby DreamSurf » Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:40 pm

or i could just use a single wax. those tutorials sound like a druid magic potion. the old ones who used parafin are the ones who got it right. It all just caters the seller to the consumers. i went to a shop and they didnt care to be honest and said that parafin or a single good wax for your temperature is good enough.

kinda crazy how some make it a long unnecessary ritual by waxing it for half an hour.

im just a squirell in this sport but i think the old generation got it right.
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby Big H » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:41 pm

fromsk82surf wrote:or i could just use a single wax. those tutorials sound like a druid magic potion. the old ones who used parafin are the ones who got it right. It all just caters the seller to the consumers. i went to a shop and they didnt care to be honest and said that parafin or a single good wax for your temperature is good enough.

kinda crazy how some make it a long unnecessary ritual by waxing it for half an hour.

im just a squirell in this sport but i think the old generation got it right.

How would you know? You have never gotten your board wet, never waxed it, never paddled a stroke. You are 100% talking out of your backside and posing until you actually TRY TO SURF.
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby saltydog » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:25 am

C'mon, op, you've got a board(or two) and wax. What are you waiting for? Stop surfing the net and surf the real waves! :surfing:
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby waikikikichan » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:35 am

fromsk82surf wrote:kinda crazy how some make it a long unnecessary ritual by waxing it for half an hour.


Some surfers use that time, to scan the break, see the level of the surfers, check the rips and how to get in and out. Sometimes it focuses your mind away from work, taxes, world problems. You may think surfing is only AIRS and CUTBACKS, but it's not. Waxing your board up is one of the rituals.

( now stretching out for 1/2 hour, that's a bit much for me. )
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby Big H » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:57 am

fromsk82surf wrote:kinda crazy how some make it a long unnecessary ritual by waxing it for half an hour.


It's a good chance to connect with your board as well....check for dings, cracks, feet the contours, notice how wax has been worn away and figure out why, note pressure dings and again figure out how they got there, check for cracks around fin boxes, tighten or switch out fins, check leash rope and deck plug......waxing time also means washing and checking leashes for nicks and the hardware junctures......I take my time and have a beer, listen to some music while doing it at home....like Wchan I actually enjoy it and on a practical note appreciate the reassurance of the regular inspections when in more critical conditions.
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby DreamSurf » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:08 am

Big H wrote:
fromsk82surf wrote:kinda crazy how some make it a long unnecessary ritual by waxing it for half an hour.


It's a good chance to connect with your board as well....check for dings, cracks, feet the contours, notice how wax has been worn away and figure out why, note pressure dings and again figure out how they got there, check for cracks around fin boxes, tighten or switch out fins, check leash rope and deck plug......waxing time also means washing and checking leashes for nicks and the hardware junctures......I take my time and have a beer, listen to some music while doing it at home....like Wchan I actually enjoy it and on a practical note appreciate the reassurance of the regular inspections when in more critical conditions.


Thank you very much. i didnt think of ot that way. waxing means connecting to your board.
i can tell you allready that there are minor cracks around the fins. and at the nose as well. some pressure ding in the centre really minor.
must be

never experienced the dissapointment of a breaking board as soon as you arrive.?
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby icetime » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:01 pm

I just go to the surf shop and ask which wax is best for the temperature in my city, the price is basically the same and you get a bit of advice.
For the base coat it's not mandatory but trust me, just get a basecoat first then get another wax like sticky bumps because you'll end up losing lots of wax since it won't stick properly to the board and it requires more muscle so say goodbye to your shoulders :lol:
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby icetime » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:04 pm

waikikikichan wrote:
fromsk82surf wrote:kinda crazy how some make it a long unnecessary ritual by waxing it for half an hour.


Some surfers use that time, to scan the break, see the level of the surfers, check the rips and how to get in and out. Sometimes it focuses your mind away from work, taxes, world problems. You may think surfing is only AIRS and CUTBACKS, but it's not. Waxing your board up is one of the rituals.

( now stretching out for 1/2 hour, that's a bit much for me. )


My ritual is the amazing part of the morning during a nice cold breeze and there's no one on the beach and like 1 guy in the lineup and you wax your board eager to paddle out, that's my favourite part of surfing.
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby DreamSurf » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:05 am

icetime wrote:
waikikikichan wrote:
fromsk82surf wrote:kinda crazy how some make it a long unnecessary ritual by waxing it for half an hour.


Some surfers use that time, to scan the break, see the level of the surfers, check the rips and how to get in and out. Sometimes it focuses your mind away from work, taxes, world problems. You may think surfing is only AIRS and CUTBACKS, but it's not. Waxing your board up is one of the rituals.

( now stretching out for 1/2 hour, that's a bit much for me. )


My ritual is the amazing part of the morning during a nice cold breeze and there's no one on the beach and like 1 guy in the lineup and you wax your board eager to paddle out, that's my favourite part of surfing.



salaam eleykoem'

so i decided to get to a local surfshop called seazons. he has ski snow surf. and he actually also does all the sports. the world is small he happens to be the best friend of Szone but they devided cause the szone dude married a girl from that place . blabla..........

he gave me a basecoat and as a topcoat he advised me sex wax. i was a little greedy but the seller was really cool and gave me loads of stuff for free and cheap. i vought an fcs cord leash plus a sock for my surfs. also there were torq surfboards( what is the reputation of the torq brand?)

fast forward went home with basecoat and topcoat sex wax. i expected it to be finished quickly but still havbe a lot of wax left. so i base coated diagonal and then reverse then circles. and added the topcoat making sure no place left without wax. i guess thats my way to do it for now.
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Re: surf wax topic AGAIN!

Postby icetime » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:13 am

fromsk82surf wrote:salaam eleykoem'

so i decided to get to a local surfshop called seazons. he has ski snow surf. and he actually also does all the sports. the world is small he happens to be the best friend of Szone but they devided cause the szone dude married a girl from that place . blabla..........

he gave me a basecoat and as a topcoat he advised me sex wax. i was a little greedy but the seller was really cool and gave me loads of stuff for free and cheap. i vought an fcs cord leash plus a sock for my surfs. also there were torq surfboards( what is the reputation of the torq brand?)

fast forward went home with basecoat and topcoat sex wax. i expected it to be finished quickly but still havbe a lot of wax left. so i base coated diagonal and then reverse then circles. and added the topcoat making sure no place left without wax. i guess thats my way to do it for now.


Yeah you're only supposed to use half the wax, one your board is coated the other half will last you 2 months or so, then do one more half then you scrape it all off a few months later and put all the wax on again so you can get a bumpier surface again and also spot hidden dings
For torq, not sure, personally I don't ever suggest buying boards from a surf shop and getting them shaped custom for you, you got enough equipment to last you more than a year so don't think about spending more on things you don't need, go get your feet wet! :D
Here in morroco we have a shaper called kai surfboards who shapes for less than what a surf shop costs, they're super professional I'm saving up for my first poly surfboard my current one is an epoxy bang machine, doesn't get any dings :lol:
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