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British Airways Petition - Keep Travelling

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:51 am
by worldsurfradio
British Airways Petition - Keep Travelling
BA want to ban surfboards - It alienates surfers, and it makes no sense. It is a false economy.
BA have been a progressive airline when dealing with boards - but if this goes ahead - they will actually be worse than RyanAir.
Please sign the petition - it is in all our interests

http://www.gopetition.com/online/14891.html

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:02 am
by soops
I've signed it (altho i have never actually taken a surf board on a flight with me yet)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:17 am
by kitesurfer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:04 pm
by worldsurfradio
Thanks to everyone who has already signed.

Please spread the word about this to all your surfing and non-surfing mates - spread the word to other forums

Today Surfboards, tomorrow musical instruments - or who knows what else.

The more people who sign, the better a chance we have to change this decision.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:45 pm
by Roy Stewart
Simon, just think about it for a minute. . . you are a person who likes to promote a 'green' or environmentally better future, and here you are promoting air surf travel . . . it just doesn't make sense.

Really, environmentally aware surfers should not be promoting air surf travel.

Fair enough? . . . . stay home and surf your local breaks, or move to an area you prefer, cut the jet travel !

Here's some food for thought:

"One study estimated that a single transatlantic return flight emits roughly half the CO2 emissions produced by all other sources (lighting, heating, car use, etc.) consumed by an average person yearly. As such, passenger jets are the fastest growing source of greenhouse gas emissions."

http://www.oceansatlas.org/servlet/CDSServlet?status=ND0xNzk0MCY2PWVuJjMzPSomMzc9a29z

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/travel/news/s/234/234831_air_travel_pollution_still_rising.html

As a seaman yourself I suggest that you start promoting surf travel by sea. . . on merchant ships, way more efficient. . . air travel is for morons

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:55 pm
by RJD
bollox. CO2 is a tiny percentage of global warming gases and mans contribution is a fraction of that.

Man made global warming is a political con. The planet goes through hot and cold periods in a roughly 1500 year basis regardless of what we do.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:04 pm
by Roy Stewart
B.ollocks to you, whichever way you slice it: pollution, resource use, or greenhouse emissions, air travel is a bad idea.

Burning fossil fuels at the rate used by air travellers just to go sightseeing is a bad idea, and isn't consistent with Simon's 'green stance

CO2 isn't the only gas produced by a jet engine either, and what about the use of precious fosil fuels and/or valuable land for bio fuel. . .. the air travel news is all bad !

Did you know that rainforests are being destroyed to produce land for bio fuel to feed hungry airliners?

I'm not a great believer in the global warming propaganda story either by the way. . . but air travel is still very bad for the planet.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:41 pm
by RJD
I'm all for minimal enviromental impact too. What were doing to the biosphere is terrible, and has nothing to do with global warming, apart from we give nature far less scope to adapt.

As for Bio jet fuel, not happening as ye :
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/ ... l-193.html

Although again its terrible rainforrest (probably bought with carbon tax credits..) is being destroyed to grow Bio fuel, when a country such as the USA couldnt grow enough to fuel itself if every square inch was planted.

Biofule aint the answer.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:45 pm
by Roy Stewart
Surf your local I reckon :D

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:30 am
by worldsurfradio
Roy - I am beginning to feel stalked here

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:12 am
by Roy Stewart
Come on Simon, it's a public forum, and I'm just doing my bit for the environment, it's nothing personal.. . . you can't expect everyone to just accept everything without comment because you said it you know, and the same applies to me.

If you want to talk about being stalked then your recent phonecall in which you told me that I deserve to be banned from swaylocks and that I shouldn't argue with you on the internet could be seen as harassment . . . but I don't see it that way because I like your honesty and your calls.

So cheer up mate, it's all good to talk about it



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:47 am
by kitesurfer
RoyStewart wrote:Surf your local I reckon :D


And make sure you use a 20ft log with a tunnel fin, complete with a day glow 80's style wetsuit eh Roy?

KS

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:38 am
by Roy Stewart
Will 12 feet be ok ?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:42 am
by kitesurfer
RoyStewart wrote:Will 12 feet be ok ?

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Nope way too short.

KS

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:49 am
by Roy Stewart
Biggest one I have designed is 21 feet, it's not built just yet, but it has a name, it's the "board of boards"

Still got the old 17 footer hanging up in the shop.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:16 am
by kitesurfer
*does a very good impression of bagpuss*

KS

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:17 am
by northswell
How do you ship your boards and kits Roy :?:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:55 am
by Roy Stewart
Well we send our kits and boards via courier van in NZ, and in recent years have only sent two kits and zero boards overseas, one of the kits went airmail. . . . it's more efficient to build the boards locally using local wood if there is any which is suitable. Prior to 1997 we sent quite a few boards and blanks overseas, some via seamail, some by airmail.

Also we have sent some wax overseas by airmail in the past but again these days it's mostly the local market here in NZ and that goes via NZpost van. It's a good idea to make the wax and sunblock locally which is why we have made the recipes available to Puffin wax in the UK and of course any surfer can make it in their kitchen at home.

So although we will send stuff via airmail on occasion we try to encourage doing it locally or using seafreight.

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