Later in life beginners

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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby jaffa1949 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:32 am

I qualify as late in life but not a beginner, but I write this to encourage you as a pocket history will show you what you have missed ( for better or worse) by entering the fray as a mature and stable adult ( although your non surfing family and contemporaries may doubt this, surfer will be wondering what took you so long.)
So I started in 1958 on a 9'6" balsa pig board, aged 9 my father made me swim a mile before I was allowed to have the board!
Let's run the gross statistics of it and consider I am only an average surfer of average ability and commitment, my mother was always hoping I would grow out of it,sadly she has gone and she would have never achieve her wish.

1958; 54 years surfing averaging 3 days per week gives me 8,424 days of surfing and I usually surf for 3 hours 25,272 hours up by now.
Guessing about 15 waves per session averaged out as I get older and slow up 379,080 waves.
I have had 32 boards I can remember, 42 wetsuits they were not available in Australia until sometime in the sixties and they were divers beaver tail type.
Outside Australia I have surfed in Hawaii 1969, New Zealand north and south island on separate trips.
Papua New Guinea Lord Howe Island, Tonga, Fiji, Vanuatu, Bali 15 trips, Nusa Lembogan, Lombok and most recently the Mentawais
I haven't been able the calculate the miles traveled.
Surfed in Australia ,all of New South Wales coast Bryon bay to Eden, strangely never surfed in Victoria or Queensland or Western Australia, surfed in South Australia and Tasmania :?
All good ( maybe)
The negative statistics;
Injuries
broken nose x 5 knees into face in strong turns, plastic surgery to rebuild nose as the bend was making chronic sinus problems.
Torn plantar fascia causing foot to ball up.
Skin cancers x 2 but not the worst type!
Smashed teeth, have dentures.
Broken relationships due to surfing about 6
Divorce due to surfing x1
High school graduation delayed by one year due to failing necessary subject,
University courses failed or dropped out of 5
Loss of social respectability due to post surf nasal drains, multiple.
Loss of social respectability due to being a surfer, multiple, but who cares :beer:
Loss of job due to surfing about 5.

Life decision statistics
Train and do University course to enable surfing lifestyle x 1 SUCCESS.
30 + years at that profession.
Marry again to wife who appreciates surfing lifestyle x 1 SUCCESS
30+ years married.
gain three sons from marriage( part of the package deal)
gain three sons to surf and travel with
gain three sons who understand post surf nasal drain :wink:
I look at my contemporaries they seem older, less fit less adaptable and slower of reflex
they talk sadder and have more psychological issues, less surf post nasal drain, they seem to be having more heart and health problems.

So I guess the real point of this little rave is to suggest to all you late comers your late entry may mean that the negative statistic area of surfing may be in the formative years and since you are more mature only the benefits now remain for you to enjoy
AND I BLOODY WELL HOPE YOU ENJOY THEM AS MUCH AS I'M SHOUTING ABOUT THEM :lol: :lol:
Having the work has got me five minutes away by bicycle from a world class surf spot and so I can choose (surf willing) to re-enter that Oceanic re-juvenation cycle and when the blessings are really great it's with my sons and now my grandsons.
At least 5 lives in my family have been enriched by surfing and the surf travel to out of the way places, if you can pass on as a love to your children, little corners of the world will be that much better.
I've taken up troll hunting just for fun, instead of a rifle I'll just use a pun! 冲浪爷爷
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby surfnoob » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:37 pm

LOL - nice post!
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Pittinhajr » Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:33 am

i'm new , i have 13 years , and start surf this year in july , but i walk with longboard ..... then i dont have much difficut
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby jaktequila » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:34 am

jaffa1949 wrote:Late starters need not feel lonely, there many here among us who choose to age disgracefully :wink:
To go surfing I have to take out my hearing aids take off my glasses, leave my false teeth in a glass jar by the door.
Then I ready the things that help me surf , my wetsuit, my booties, my anti sunburn hat , my gloves put on my anti burn make up. then surf board and finally
Zimmer frame.jpg


Hope that encourages all you impending geriatrics :lol: :lol: :lol:


I might have seen you before, uncle Jaffa. Do you surf at D'bah?
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Rickyroughneck » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:15 pm

jaffa1949 wrote:Loss of social respectability due to post surf nasal drains, multiple

:lol: 8)
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby jaffa1949 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:28 pm

jaktequila wrote:
I might have seen you before, uncle Jaffa. Do you surf at D'bah?


I'm about as far from D'Bah as you can get in NSW ( Im down the southern end of NSW) occasionally I get up to the Crescent Head area, my son lives there, never surfed in Queensland :shock:
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby surf patrol » Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:38 pm

What age were you when you started Pittinhajr?
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Vaalchop » Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:00 am

Hi all, first time poster but been lurking for a while. I'm 40, self taught, started 6 months ago and finding surfing a great but very frustrating sport to master. Despite being a gym and cardio bunny, my paddling sucks big time and is a key focus area for me now. I must add that I have picked up many good tips and advice from searching the forum.

I do have one "how long is a piece of string" question though, how long should it usually take for a beginner who is surfing 2 to 3 times a week to progress to surfing along a green wave? I just feel my progress is far too slow which is a bit demoralizing at times.

Great forum!!
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby surf patrol » Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:37 am

Hi Vaalchop, welcome to Surfing Waves!

Everyone's different, so it's hard to say how far you should have progressed. The more time you can spend in the water, the better your progress will be. What board are you riding?
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Vaalchop » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:41 pm

Thank you for the warm welcome. I currently have two boards I frequently use, a 7'3 minimal and a 6'8 fun board. I tend to use the fun board in bigger surf as I battle to get out on the minimal.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby RonG » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:28 pm

Vaalchop wrote:Thank you for the warm welcome. I currently have two boards I frequently use, a 7'3 minimal and a 6'8 fun board. I tend to use the fun board in bigger surf as I battle to get out on the minimal.


46 y/o, and I've been surfing about the same amount of time (since beginning of July '11), and also average 3 times a week or so. I have also found surfing to be one of the most challenging and slowest-to-progress activities I have attempted, despite being a conditioned athlete.

I started catching and riding the green face with a reasonable rate of success probably after 2, maybe 2.5 months. Without more information, I'd say the main difference between my progress and yours is board size. I bought a 9' longboard in mid-July, and have been doing almost all my surfing on that. I bought a 7'10 minimal a few months ago, and have tried a few shorter boards along the way, and the difference is night and day - so much harder to paddle and catch waves with the shorter boards. I think if I had tried to start with one of those shorter boards I probably would have given up in frustration a long time ago.

It's true the longboard is definitely more challenging to manage in bigger surf, but from my perspective the ability to be riding unbroken waves most of the time more than makes up for it (plus I can go out and surf on those little days when people with shorter boards pack up and go home).
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Vaalchop » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:13 am

Hi Ron,

Thanks for the advice, it makes loads of sense. I most probably have way overestimated my progression and then by also trying to learn on a shorter board has hindered my progress even further. I'm determined to beat this and have loads of fun while doing it. Also been reading every book etc I can find and have identified some fundamental mistakes I'm making. Gonna focus on that this week end and go for gold.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby greg2935 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:38 am

Vaalchop wrote:Hi Ron,

Thanks for the advice, it makes loads of sense. I most probably have way overestimated my progression and then by also trying to learn on a shorter board has hindered my progress even further. I'm determined to beat this and have loads of fun while doing it. Also been reading every book etc I can find and have identified some fundamental mistakes I'm making. Gonna focus on that this week end and go for gold.



I can recommend "surfing illustrated - a visual guide to wave riding" by John Robison. Its a kind of summary of what most of the other books I have read included, without the padding: excellent for people like me with a short attention span :cry:

I'm 42 and started last year. Managing to catch green waves...sometimes...well, actually once in every ten attempts or so, really frustrating and totally exhausting as unlike most of you I'm a fat balding git. :woot:

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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Vaalchop » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:03 am

Thanx Greg, I have just purchased the book, thanks for the input.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby greg2935 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:41 pm

no worries, hope the book works for you
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Vic Docker » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:29 am

Just found this website and was drawn to the "old guys rule" caption as I have only taken up surfing 2 years ago at the ripe old age of 41. I was camping with my wife and 2 young daughters along the Victorian surf coast here in Australia and went out body boarding with them and thought it was rather lame and I needed a challenge. Spoke to many people who all said that "you're never too old to surf" so before. Knew it, my darling wife bought me a 7"6' mini mal and off i went
Learned a lot in a very short space of time. 1/ need lots of wax on a board, not a 5 minute brush over first up. 2/ need a good wetsuit, not a cheap one from a camping shop. 3/ learn the do's and dont's of surfing. Keep out of the way of the really good surfers and learn where the best spots are for beginners to surf.
I generally surf at Torquay but we are blessed here with one of the worlds best surf coasts with numerous beaches to try. Think the thing that kept me from starting earlier is the initial cost of purchasing a board and wetsuit. My first board (which got stolen worse luck) was a epoxy board, but now have a 7"2' fibreglass Rip Curl board which I am still adjusting to as have only had it about 5months.
The other thing that blew me away was the amount of people around my age surfing with different levels of experience but however are happy to give a few tips and advice and always happy to have a chat. A great bunch of people.
It took quite some time before I managed to get on my feet which I can do now, but just need to be a bit quicker at it. I had a surfing lesson for Christmas 2010 which was a real benefit as it got my technique right. Was a real plus and recommend it anyone.
Now the only thing I have to conquer now is being daunted by the size of waves! I feel comfortable in 2-3ft waves, but if it starts getting bigger I go closer to shore and compromise by riding broken waves/whitewash. Early in the piece I decided t be brave and tackle 3-4ft swell and cartwheeled off the front of the board and I panicked when I got dunked. Shook me up a bit, and. Got out of the water, sat on the beach and said to myself "I am going to do this, I am not going to let this beat me"
Theres still a safety first mechanism in my mind that tells me what waves to catch and what to leave. I'm not looking to be the next Taj Burrow or Kelly Slater of the world just happy to catch a few small to medium size waves and have fun at the same time.
Just wish I took this up 20 yeas ago, love it!
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby surf patrol » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:25 am

Hi Vic Docker, welcome to Surfing Waves!,
Some great advice there for anyone looking to start surfing (at any age).
I'm not looking to be the next Taj Burrow or Kelly Slater of the world just happy to catch a few small to medium size waves and have fun at the same time.

I'd probably say that goes for 95%+ of most surfers out there, me included.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Joe_Voodoo3 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:42 pm

Awesome forum! I am about to venture into surfing. It's been an idea for years but suddenly lurking in my mind lately. One trip to Santa Cruz just for a weekend getaway and "Poof!" the lurking as gone into obsession. So much so I really miss my old VW bus I used to drive! Mostly been looking at Youtube videos for instruction and for books I've read the book "Kook: What surfing taught me about love, life and catching the perfect wave" by Peter Heller. It was nice to read about a 45 year old guy from Colorado and his journey into surfing.
Haven't gotten a board "YET" which is good as I was jones'n for a 8'6 funboard/hybrid but my friend in Hawaii insisted I will have more success going with a 9'6 to begin with (for ease of paddling and catching). Which makes sense as surfing is probably 90% paddling, 10% surfing with waiting your turn and wiping out taken percentages out here and there.
In the meantime I just prepare for success before my first Surf lesson which is coming up in March (hopefully sooner). I prepare by doing silly stuff such as yoga, swimming, numerous pop ups till I feel dizzy, free weights for every possible shoulder development (I remember my shoulders burning in pain last time I tried my hand at surfing in 93) and spending time on my longboard skateboard. Like others I am not looking to be Slater. But the part I like the best is meeting people out on the wave line, hearing the sound where the board meets the wave and enjoying laughing at myself.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Vaalchop » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:18 pm

Just an update guys, went out on Sunday and it was so amazing how everything just suddenly came together. I went out on my minimal first and nailed the first wave riding the green water most of the way. After quite a few amazing rides, I took out the 6'8 (brimming with confidence) and nailed wave after wave. Just goes to show what lots of practice and educating yourself as best as possible will achieve.

To the other guys that are battling at the moment - don't give up!!
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby jaffa1949 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:59 am

Vaalchop wrote:Just an update guys, went out on Sunday and it was so amazing how everything just suddenly came together. I went out on my minimal first and nailed the first wave riding the green water most of the way. After quite a few amazing rides, I took out the 6'8 (brimming with confidence) and nailed wave after wave. Just goes to show what lots of practice and educating yourself as best as possible will achieve.

To the other guys that are battling at the moment - don't give up!!


You nailed what is needed in one (lots of practice) shows how water time speeds up progress, good to see you beginning to move up the food chain :lol:

Definitely don't give up!
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