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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Yoav400 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:38 pm

jaffa1949 wrote:At your age you are perigeri not fully geriatric, I’m 71 just go and have the most enjoyable surf you can and enjoy thoroughly.
You are beyond being fashionable, as for snow boarding, skateboarding or any other board sport, you were already stand and relying on gravity!
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71!?!, you are my hero!
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby dtc » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:08 pm

40? pfft, just a grommet
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Yoav400 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:10 am

so you think I still got a shot at the world title?
better get going then
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby 3Crows » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:14 pm

I am 66. I believe in and practice physical fitness for life, not to extend life but to extend life quality. I did surf a little when I was in my 20s, enough to learn to wipe out nicely! But, if I say so myself, I am not your regular, average 66 year old fella. I was a semi-pro triathlete and still participate in triathlon and cycling and occasionally masters level swimming and open water racing. At 5-10+ and 160 pounds I am very fit and my only limitation is my left hip and femur is more titanium than bone due to a cycling crash a decade ago, which can make running painful at times and some shoulder injuries (dirt bikes and motocross which I still do) that sometimes hurt during swims. But, I swim like a fish and also a life long SCUBA/free diver. My point being, there is no reason other than I have to travel to surf/dive, that I cannot progress to at least a level sufficient to just have fun. And that is my simple goal, get outside, paddle around, catch a wave or two and get to where I feel I am surfing. Goals beyond that, beats me.

The pop up and getting my balance and coordination I see as my main challenges and of course reading the waves and water conditions but they would hardly be different from any age person. My left leg is not as strong as the operation to put it back together did cut through muscle and while it looks normal, it is about 2/3s as strong as my right leg.

My workout regimen varies with my interests and season but I rarely do less than below weekly:

2 full body weight and strength conditioning
3X1+ mile swims
75 miles cycling (3X25)
12 miles running (3X4)
2X1 hour rowing machine

I am adding in some burpee and exercises to strengthen my back and core to assist my "banana" posture on the board. And, I will be purchasing a true longboard, whatever that may mean, as it will suit my needs for east coast/Florida knee high to waist high surf conditions.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Banana » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:03 am

I'm very similar to you, 3Crows. I'm 67.

I got back into surfing this August, and even though I've always been in good shape, it took two months to get back into surfing shape. Still improving. Twenty pushups when I started, and now thirty-five. I'm annoyingly proud of that.

I was out of breath more than ever on one of my first sessions, but I feel much better now.

Below is one of my (Bowflex Extreme) workouts, but currently I'm surfing every other day or every third, and my body can't take more than that. I'm beat for two days after surfing but it feels good.

Strength and flexibility hold me back a bit, and perhaps also coordination.

But with surfing, you can have fun at every level.

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My ideal wave height:

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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby telemitry » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:46 am

Love this thread and this forum.

I’m a 39 year old songwriter that just took up surfing in May of 2020 mainly as an escape to a xxxxx storm of a year. My wife and I bought a vacation rental in the FL panhandle and ended up hiding out there most of the year. I got addicted .... hard and fast:) Mostly bull waves and often very sloppy, but the workouts from a couple hours of having fun on a softech 9 or the catch surf log have been the only times in my life I’ve been out of breath but not wanting to quit. I’ve never been that athletic or that into fitness.

I just returned from a trip to Carlsbad and took a two hour lesson while there. I had already been popping up pretty consistently but thought I’d overcome my fears with an instructor and try California surfing.

Holy xxxxx the paddling. In FL I had gotten spoiled and lazy just walking out on the soft sand to the second break , jumping on and paddling to catch 1-2ft waves going straight.

Just getting out to the line up I knew I was in for a rude awakening;). Somehow I caught the first wave and popped up and I think shocked the instructor .... and continued to ride it all the way into the shore. Mistake ;). Turning around to paddle back out It finally dawned on me why people bail early. Paddling through to the lineup again I was huffing like two a day football practices of my youth. I caught 7 waves but had to wrap the two hour lesson early cause my arms were absolute jello.

I was pretty psyched to overcome the fear and actually catch some proper waves . In some ways they felt easier to ride than FL waves, I just needed more paddle stamina .

So back in FL I’m trying to be less lazy. Going for a paddle on flat days even , paddle out even when I can walk out. I’m also working on new surf elbow stretches that seem to be helping the pain I’ve been experiencing on that front.

Anyways , sorry for the novel. I think this was more of a journaling post for me than anything. I’m trying my best not to let my insecurities follow me into the water to taint this new found therapy. I don’t mind being intimidated or even fearful, but I’m trying to push through each obstacle slowly.

This is the first time I’ve had a hobby that completely takes my mind off music and I think about nothing but the next wave.

39 year old grom - Jesse
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby stimbley » Fri May 07, 2021 10:00 am

43 yr old here, took up surfing again this summer after a twenty-five yr break. Wondering what the hell I did with my life! Just being out in the ocean is massively soul-enriching. Currently living in Brisbane, only able to surf on the weekends (Kirra and Greenmount are my fav spots). Trying to build up my endurance and core-strength and not lose momentum.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby jaffa1949 » Sat May 08, 2021 8:49 am

Glad you became to be a Latter Day member of the church o the wet green emerald cathedrals. Surf on! :lol:
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby SaltWaterHeart » Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:20 pm

I'm 36 (very close to 37) and started surfing at 31. I grew up in Kansas and went all over the US for school, eventually landing in New England and staying in southern Maine, about an hour north of Boston. I had a job that required a lot of reading and sitting at a desk, not unlike grad school, and gained a good bit of weight from when I was younger and very athletic. I dated a surf instructor briefly for a few months in 2015, she lent me The Book of Surfing: An Extreme Guide and told me to study up and get ready to learn. I began watching pro surfing, watching surfers at my local which was just down the road and I never really thought about surfing up here before, but always wanted to learn. I was out of shape and had random injuries, then before any lessons we broke up. I decided to go through learning to surf and just teach myself. Felt it would be a positive takeaway from that relationship. It took awhile to get a roof rack for my Honda Civic and wetsuit and gear (the water is pretty cold in Maine), and eventually got what I needed and had a friend in a coffee shop who surfs and told me he'd take me out whenever. So, having read a lot about surfing and the conditions, followed like 3 surf apps for conditions, I reached out to him during a Nor'easter just before Christmas 2015 and he lent me one of his boards, unwaxed or minimally waxed, way too small for me in hindsight, and I went out for 20min fighting the white water and just tried to get on the board to even paddle and struggled and kept sliding off or getting knocked off by white water. I took a break and went out again for another 20min, eventually tweaked my lower back and got out, totally exhausted and out of shape, but needing motivation to get back in shape and finally found it. I was horrible and couldn't do anything right besides put my wetsuit on correctly, but I was hooked. I committed to going to the gym 2-4 times a week, more when not surfing/hiking, less if doing either in order to give my body time to recover. In the next 2-3 yrs, I lost 80lbs, built paddle muscles, and totally transformed my physique from the gym and surfing. I'm 6' and was 265lbs, dropped to 180-190lbs (depending on the week).

I bought a soft top from a local shop and went out for every single swell, some very big, some tiny. Did some things right, learned some bad habits which I eventually kicked. Got very good on the soft top even in double overhead conditions, and eventually bought and cycled through boards on Craigslist. After getting the basics down and being comfortable riding one board, I decided to swing for a new board. Went through a few new boards looking for what felt right and seemed fun. I was progressing quickly, so I over did it on volume and within a few months of getting a new board found they were way too big for me and got rid of them. Then, decided to try different types of boards to get better all around. Got a single fin egg from Josh Hall, custom, 8' mid length. It was long, but pretty thin compared to shorter thruster boards I'd tried. Took a lot more work to paddle but eventually learned it's great in head high conditions with offshore, and not the best on small days which we get a lot of. I began using it mostly for big Nor'easter or hurricane swells to paddle out easier and to knife into bombs. Got a classic, heavy, hand shaped Kurtis Woodin log, single fin. Took awhile to figure out and ride leashless, but fun and opened up small days and could ditch the soft top which I used for lessons for local kids and gave to a friend. Super hard to paddle and heavy, but great overall. Best I can do now is Cheater 5, walking it and maybe a spin on it, in addition to regular maneuvers in the water cutbacks, etc. Haven't consistently been able to hang 10 nor have I been able to hang heels yet, still progressing. Worked at going down in size on the mid length thrusters/funboards I'd been riding on Craigslist and after working down to 6'8" felt comfortable enough to swap for a 6'2" and then a 6'. Eventually wanted to try a fish and got a deal on a quad fish which I love and have played around and mixed and matched fins for. Got a long fish recently with keel fins, but it isn't that long a fish, been trying it out on head high days or bigger for fun. Currently have a 6'2" Bing quad fish, 6'8" Christenson long fish, 9'4" Woodin nose rider (One Love model), 6' Channel Islands squash tail Rocket Wide, and a 8' Josh Hall egg.

Ride all of them, and while my newest is the 6' CI, I've become pretty proficient on each board and am progressing at different stages on each. Only just becoming comfortable with the speed and small size of a small performance shortboard. It's taken a lot of time. I'm older and not getting younger, but the sweet spot seems to be the hybrid shortboards or the slightly wider or voluminous shortboards that are a cross between a hybrid and a proper shortboard. I used to really have to think about timing and read the sets and focus on the mechanics of standing up, but now, especially on a shortboard, I barely even need to paddle and sometimes just lean and go and focus more on what maneuver I plan to do after I takeoff, whether down the line and barrel hunt, or turns. I've not really done any proper airs, but done some solid 5-10' ejects off the back of waves on some big days. I'm content with not doing fancy airs. I just want to be able to do what I can think of doing in my head on a wave, and I'm about there and grateful for the gift surfing is for me and the God-given ability to even make it out on big days, let alone stand out as one of the better surfers as my local. I've had seasons where surfing becomes more mechanical and all about getting the next wave and not enjoying it, but it all goes back to calming down, and just trying to block out the addiction and negativity that can be out there and just having fun. Having the respect of locals who have surfed all their lives, some being pros and sponsored, is it's own reward and more than any big air for me at least.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby Naeco78 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:42 am

Hey SWH thanks for sharing.. thats great that you stuck with it during the challenges in the beginning. Learning in freezing temps and wetsuits like that isnt easy. My brother had tried to learn during a winter in the northeast, so he could try get good before summer and impress all the chicks.. but he quit before Christmas haha. I had already been surfing for years before gearing up for 30 deg water.. I can't imagine learning in that.
Good choice of boards IMO. I'm in my 40s and like the hybrid/fish too. I have 6'2 RW and trying to transition to a 5'8" CI Fish this summer.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby SaltWaterHeart » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:08 pm

Thanks! When you stick with it and push yourself past rough whitewater in Nor’easters and hurricane swells year round no matter the temperature, you eventually earn respect. I felt like I plateaued a bit after rapidly progressing into intermediate from beginner, but lately I’ve noticed slight improvements that make a big difference. I’ve been able to get down to 6’ on my shortboard, from 6’2”, and just went down to 5’9” on my a Larry Mabile twinzer fish I just traded my 6’2” Bing Quad fish for as that board was fun but just too big for the volume for me. I’m able to surf the 6’ RW comfortably and have plenty of volume, could even go smaller but I’m happy with it for now. Ride it as a twin plus trailer and thruster (when it’s better, which this time of year we haven’t had much of). I’m able to catch 1-3’ waves on it though, which is pretty cool. Though, I generally surf a fish or log when it’s smaller.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby SlopeSoarer » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:24 pm

Hi

I've recently moved to Trearddur Bay on Anglesey (smallish island off the coast of Wales, UK for those further afield), I'm 61 but mentally I think I'm 16. Trearddur does get some surf but Rhosneigr a bit further down the road offers a bit better, plenty of room too:-)

I've I've sailed dinghies and done some windsurfing (30 years ago!) but never surfed, though always fancied ago but for one reason or another never got around to it.

I've been looking for a forum to ask the question... am I to old to surf but thankfully there seems to be a forum which says yes it is!

As I say I'm 61, reasonably fit (cycle and hike very regularly), 5' 10" / 178cm, around 12st 3lb / 78kg. I'm looking to buy a used surfboard and from reading a mini mal around 7' 6" or longboard around 8' should be OK!? In the UK there seems to be a reasonable amount of BIC / Tahe available on the used market, what are the thoughts on these? Being realist age is against me and I just hope to be able to do basic stuff anything else is a bonus. Do you think I'm looking at the right sort of board or should I be looking elsewhere?

I appreciate any help and will enjoy doing back through a long thread over the next night or two.

All the best

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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby jaffa1949 » Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:42 pm

Answer to this go 9ft a rule of thumb 3ft over your body height, longer gives you more chance of catching waves short makes your soul a flounder!
You will understand the fishy pun, when you take a couple of lessons spend a little time on a shorter board of the dimensions you are thinking about. Then try a longboard around 9ft, make the call on what you want then! The surf school pushing you into white water waves doesn‘t count!

Next step if you see a board don‘t just buy it post pictures of it we are happy to evaluate the board for you!

You have every chance of being a capable average surfer enjoying himself! :lol:
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby SlopeSoarer » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:47 pm

Makes sense to me. I know I can never learn at the rate of a much younger person, my reactions will obviously be much slower. I'll be a happy man if I can do some very basic surfing and I'd be frustrated if I kept trying and get nowhere.

Hopefully the surf school would have a few different size boards!?

Cheers

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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby SlopeSoarer » Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:05 pm

stimbley wrote:43 yr old here, took up surfing again this summer after a twenty-five yr break. Wondering what the hell I did with my life! Just being out in the ocean is massively soul-enriching. Currently living in Brisbane, only able to surf on the weekends (Kirra and Greenmount are my fav spots). Trying to build up my endurance and core-strength and not lose momentum.


Although I live in Wales, UK I can picture just where your favourite spots are as my son lives in Brisbane (Bridgeman Downs) and we've been up on the Gold Coast a fair bit! Unfortunately due to the pandemic we haven't seen him since 11/2019 and it doesn't look likely any time soon. I'm sure you will pick it up again relatively quickly, muscle memory and all that. I think my journey will be much longer :lol:

Enjoy your journey... again!
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby oldmansurfer » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:03 am

Don’t get discouraged early on. The fitness you need is paddle fitness which biking and hiking don’t provide and learning about the ocean will be challenging.
So what is worse.... dying or regretting it for the rest of my life? Obviously I chose not regretting it.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby SlopeSoarer » Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:24 am

oldmansurfer wrote:Don’t get discouraged early on. The fitness you need is paddle fitness which biking and hiking don’t provide and learning about the ocean will be challenging.


Good point, I'll bear that in mind. I can be quite determined when I have a goal in mind. I'll get some press ups going.
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby SlopeSoarer » Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:25 pm

... oh and I swim daily though I am no Michael Phelps :-D
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby jaffa1949 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:35 pm

You could do some flat water paddling, push ups and burpees for pop up,will be important :lol:
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Re: Later in life beginners

Postby jaffa1949 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:27 pm

That‘s good news enjoy thoroughly! :lol:
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