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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:08 am

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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:10 am

here you go, make your own mind up.
Reef location 01..jpg
The surf spot. ceach access behind the bus.
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Buoy at middle right marks r/h edge of reef, it's seaward in the middle of image.
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You're looking at our reef
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:20 am

Sorry, images abit muddled up. I'll do better tomorrow. Forgot to date & timestamp too. sorry.

Today is strong onshore, 1-2ft short-period windswell, images taken at dead-low tide. A poor day for surfing here generally.
On a day like today where it's all onshore mess..one would reasonably expect the engineered delta-wing reef to show slightly more "order" to the slop - especially at dead-low tide, and have whitewater visably further out than the inshore beachbreak. You would expect to be able to see where the reef is at least - especially at dead-low tide.

try & find it.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:36 pm

cool , I have always thought the reefcam was sus -anything linked from the asr web page was -- to to taken with a grain of salt?
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:38 pm

:) :)
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:16 am

Today conditions the same, strong onshore short period windswell. 1-2 feet.
Again at almost dead low tide we should expect to see some whitewater order over the submerged reef, less chaotic mess...there is none. You cannot even tell where it is. R/H buoy is visable in one shot, reef lies seaward to the left of this buoy. Out behind the white water.
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reef close up - hopefully buoy is visable mid right. reef seaward from that point & towards the left.
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Reef close up - even on a day like this at almost dead low tide some order in the whitewater mess should be apparent.
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wide view of site. Reef in middle.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:10 pm

ok -no 70 to one ? return in the last two days that were obvious anuway?
the next two days have to give 140 to one retturn each to keep the promise on par ( its just so obviously good business sense)

i had heard of "promised returns of 40 to one" but meades Mount reef had them promising 70 to one??

Im happy to keep a day by day diary of "the cumulative average" return of meades mount reef now that keery black has pronounced it "completed ' finished ' to specifications.

how is the outlook for a "RUSH" of tourism dollars in the next two days to "make up the last two" It needs 140 to one each day to "get back on track" now keery black has said that the reef IS finished to specifications

"LET THE ACCOUNTING BEGIN"
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:25 am

Strong northerlies again today - but easing. same conditions as yesterday. Todays photo comes from 10 feet to the right - on the actual walkway (I wasn't going to climb a toilet block in a my work clothes :-) I like this one cause there's another guy who like me stares out to see at our reef like a meercat wishing the thing to work. If you look just above his head & slightly to the left you'll see the r/h marker buoy. Reef seaward & to the left of this point, out in the green...

I'm looking forward to it cleaning up abit, I want to capture an image of Tay Street beachbreak itself working, and I'll take an oblique photo along the beach showing the normal bars being surfed either side...but the reef area in the middle completely devoid of users.

if you want to specifically see this site dial up google earth & look at the intersection of Tay Street and Marine Parade. to get your bearings....
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby drowningbitbybit » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:39 am

:lol:
I love the daily BrentReefCam!
It so doesnt match my mental image of what it was going to look like - even knowing that it didnt work, I still imagined a small lip of groundswell flopping apathetically over a glassy smooth sea in an exotic location... but, it looks like, er, well.... exactly like the bournemouth one will look like.

And, yup, doesnt seem to work :bang:
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby esonscar » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:07 pm

Oooooh, the reef thing - good pics of the ocean dude ! Where are the waves ?! It would be nice if it worked – I want to go down to our UK one for some South coast perfection !

On the other hand I live in a surfing mecca, so maybe I’ll sit tight !

Keep the posts coming – this is a real evaluation - exciting stuff.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:13 am

now these commenta from wikipedia are not meant to be directed toward any person or any particular group of people - but whenever a lot of money changes hands on the basis of promises that dont come true - one is entitled to ask -even if it wasnt intended to be as scam - did it end up "panning out" to look like one??

The first known usage of the term "confidence man" in English was in 1849; it was used by American press during the United States trial of William Thompson. Thompson chatted with strangers until he asked if they had the confidence to lend him their watches, whereupon he would walk off with the watch; he was captured when a victim recognized him on the street.[1]

The term 'scam' is often used to describe the 'confidence trick' employed by a 'confidence man'. This word is thought to come from the Irish phrase 'S cam é (pron. s'cam ae) meaning 'it is a trick' [2]

Lou Pearlman (1954) — US businessman and manager of boy bands, sentenced to 25 years in 2008 for operating a Ponzi investment scheme

Gregor MacGregor (1786–1845) – Scottish conman who tried to attract investment and settlers for a non-existent country of Poyais[5]

William Thompson (active in 1840–1849) – US criminal whose deceptions caused the term confidence man to be coined[6]

oops another day of debit in the " plain good business sense " of reckening

i reckin that the debit seems to be winning over the credit??
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:28 am

Same crap, different day.
To be fair you will see some action eventually, whitewash apathetically washing across the atoll when it cleans up, or if a bigger & longer period swell come through a errant shortbreak flopping & washing along the leading edge of one side of the reef, but nothing even remotely surfable.
As it calms & cleans up the image I really want to capture to prove my point is a decent swell day & no-one on it - and 50-60 guys out on either side of it enjoying nice sandbars. Meanwhile the reef sits there like a 48 year old hooker.

So, todays offering for the gents.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:13 am

how can we show our appreciation brent?
reality rules at last!
keep up the good work!
surfers everywhere will be able to decide for themselves if they are told anything other than what you show!
3 cheers for brent ! - a guiding light for any blinded surfing public!

i think i would like to nomimate brent for presentation of the "surfer exposing the truth ' award.
In the face of adversery from a global would be if they could be 'money machine"

he stands firm like the guys who hoist the flag on Iwa Jima -
the guys who took "pork cop ' hill
the 101st airborne guy who said 'they got us surrounded' - the answer ' yeh the poor bastards" at bastogne
the other who said "you idiot we are paratropers and we are supposed to be surrounded"
and like those that stood up to be counted and said 'shut the f.. up" to those that wanted to drivel and spin about what really is happening.

military quotes came from our group of surfers that got together last weekend to remember the fallen over a dawn fire on the beach.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:15 am

Calmer today, today you can more clearly see the r/h buoy.
The reef is smack in the middle of this image taken from the same spot as yesterday. Pity about the very short period windswell now dying. When the lines are even & clean you can more clearly see our folly.

Tomorrow I'm off to Auckland for the day to collect my freshly restored mint Leica iiiG (see photo attached for those interested in such things - I can't wait to run some fresh tri x through it - who needs digi eh?) so I can't post tomorrow - a day off. Friday I'll try to cop a morning image on my way to work.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:37 am

i can hear the positive spin from the reef designers/builders

the ocean is blue the sky is there and its all good due to the reef

also we can count to ten and walk straight again since we went to reef detox and rehab

Meades mount reef rocks ( .........truefullness to the core)

:blah: :blah:
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby esonscar » Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:02 pm

I like your Leica :D

You gonna take that to the beach ?! :shock:


[ edit - I used to use XP-400 :) - nothing noteworthy came out though :( ! ]
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:04 pm

old school is "staunch" and reliable -when one had to understand what optics meant to get good pictures
Computerised things created a generation of 'einsteins" who believed that paying for an device or computer program produced a "perfect result" in any outcome.

well as we know pretty computer designs dont tell nature what to do , do they surley?

Even worse in the hands of people without scruples - can be the instruments of mass beach destruction.

Then it gets worse !

The people without scruples then deviate from the reality in denying the lack of sucess.

oh Shaw meade has called his reef "a fickle wave"

which when we search for the words meaning reveals much more than he thought he was revealing

fick·le (fkl)
adj.
Characterized by erratic changeableness or instability, especially with regard to affections or attachments; capricious.

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[Middle English fikel, from Old English ficol, deceitful.]

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fickle·ness n.
fickly adv.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


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fickle
Adjective
1. changeable in purpose, affections, etc.: notoriously fickle voters
2. (of the weather) changing often and suddenly [Old English ficol deceitful]
fickleness n


( as was shaws weather forcast the night before the barge went agaround) ed note.




Characterized by erratic changeableness or instability, especially with regard to affections or attachments; capricious.
Following no predictable pattern: capricious, changeable, erratic, fantastic, fantastical, freakish, inconsistent, inconstant, mercurial, temperamental, ticklish, uncertain, unpredictable, unstable, unsteady, variable, volatile, whimsical. See change/persist, continue/stop/pause.

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http://www.answers.com/topic/fickle

then also

Adj. 1. fickle - marked by erratic changeableness in affections or attachments; "fickle friends"; "a flirt's volatile affections"
volatile
inconstant - likely to change frequently often without apparent or cogent reason; variable; "inconstant affections"; "an inconstant lover"; "swear not by...the inconstant moon"- Shakespeare
2. fickle - liable to sudden unpredictable change; "erratic behavior"; "fickle weather"; "mercurial twists of temperament"; "a quicksilver character, cool and willful at one moment, utterly fragile the next"
erratic, mercurial, quicksilver
changeful, changeable - such that alteration is possible; having a marked tendency to change; "changeable behavior"; "changeable moods"; "changeable prices"
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fickle

all of which suggests that it shouldnt be there as its designer is recognising that he does know what he is and what it is doing - all quite at odds with what Inventor "A" is saying -its all good and finished to specifications -they have forgotten that shoelace left does not get tied to shoelace right on the same person again!

In fact they have in ensuring the "safe thing was said and done" got distracted tied shoelace left of "designer a's" shoe to shoelace left of "designer b's" shoe - now at least we should give them an encouragement award for not tripping over on their own shoelaces

but again we have to remind them

designer a and designer b listen carefully , here is a little tip for improvement of your getting up in the morning checklist for "safe and secure working practice"

"you have to only tie your own shoelace on your own shoe" not onto your bedpartners shoe when you get up in the morning.

myy myy -does the learning curve never end?



this was probably a result of getting up early in the morning to do the blacks opanake reef excusion -as designer b said the the everpresent paparazzi at his doors throwing them some scraps of encouragement for their continued prescence

"we will not be staying overnight at Opanake and will get up very early to finish what we have to do on the same day"

one could see the cellphone network being "overloaded" as the omnipresent media all tried to get to reuters first for the "royalties" rights

possibly trying to say that what they plan to do on one day will get completed on that day --in 2009 - distracting from the .....1998 promise of "rags to richs" for the small town if they ..um just paid kerry black on a "of course i promise we will all be rich" statement.

the media of cousre stands "pens poised 'from the "rock gods of surf drivel" for more revelations of grandeur to inspire the "bored of no surf days" army of supporters .

this was reported in the UN security council as a printworthy statement of note as the world's delegates sat "spellbound" and rose to a unanimouse standing ovation. :clap:



tripping over on your bedpartners shoelaces in print though will not help with applying for more "humanitarian cause" grants from the "surfaid" donators.

oh I forgot as did those idiots, surfaid is for the starving homeless people from surfers wanting to reverse the "karma" -not a asr -keery black -shaw meade -surfing reef benefit fund (that is akin to selling children soldiers ak47's in bad "karma". (see lord of war))

the "novel ' goes on

as keery said to the "Timesonline"

the starving undernourished and without shelter locals would rather I have my surf reef paytent royalty as they can sell me their children as "beach boys" -carrying my wax and all the well paid duties I can find for them when i choose!

heck!!

the worlds saved with such an humanitarian in reciept of our "surfaid"
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby i_c_all » Fri May 01, 2009 9:03 am

i wonder why this article caught my eye?

peter foster I think is following a "higher calling" of all "phantoms' who swear on their fathers skull to "get what they can while they can" - oh i think I know why I though this information has some relevence to Artificial Surfing Reefs now (ASR's or mulifunction mulipurpose underwater reef made from artificial colors and flavours. I dont know if anyone else has heard about pieces of the Gold coast reef washin upon beaches north of it ? sounds a bit like the "agmes up" for the performance, return and longivety claims - only the self confessed "fickle ones" by saw mede that is?

"GOLD Coast conman Peter Foster is a free man after being released early this morning from his latest stint in jail.

Foster, 46, was spirited out of the Numinbah prison farm in the Gold Coast hinterland about 4am by family members, according to a report in The Courier-Mail.

He was jailed for 4 1/2 years in December 2007 after pleading guilty in the Brisbane Supreme Court to laundering $300,000 he fraudulently obtained from the Bank of the Federated States of Micronesia.

He was not officially due to be released until August 2011 but was granted parole.

Foster was arrested at Brisbane Airport in February 2007 after dramatically fleeing from Fiji to Vanuatu in a boat.

He had made headlines in 2006 during a dramatic arrest in Fiji, when he tried to flee police by stripping down to his underpants and jumping into a river.

He hit his head on a boat propeller and then went on a hunger strike in hospital, claiming police had bashed him.

Foster was yesterday reunited with relatives at his mother Louise Poletti's riverfront Surfers Paradise home."

can you imagine designer A and designer B in that scenario??

brings a smile to your face doesnt it??

"cows with guns"
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby market-research » Sat May 02, 2009 2:08 am

"ASR project manager Shaw Mead told the Bay of Plenty Times he was excited about the work on the Tay St reef and that it would produce noticeable breaks, especially on the right-hand side"

shaw is getting excited abiout the right being finished at the mount?

by now i thought that he would have realised that "over self-stimulation" was not good for one's own mental health and can lead to people just thinking that he was ... a "w a n k e r"

leave it alone shaw and it will grow of its own accord when you meet someone nice- he will appreciate all you tried to do for keerys bank account and you will be appreciated for the "real man" you are trying sooo hard (hhh...hhmm) to be..

yes i believe that he has since retracted that with the statement that "the mount reef is a fickle wave" and his reputation has suffered for all the "fickle "statements that he is on record of making about it.

no shaw your reputation has not suffred because you have proved to be "fickle ' its stayed exactly the same ... in reality unchanged from initialy , constantly and now being a "fickle businessman that pretends to be a surfing providor of means"

a surf purveyor?? or a purf surveyor - all the same -you try so hard (hhh hmhmmm)

except its only self purveying that seems to have been happening?

so when you see him in the water give him a bit of encouragement

"hey shaw .. stop that self-purveying its not good for you"

we can forgive for as so .... obviously you had absolutely no idea of what you were doing -just stop it and we will forgive and forget.
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Re: Artificial Reef Project

Postby Brent » Sun May 03, 2009 7:11 am

Hi all, been away for afew days, I scorded an image or two on Friday morn but by digi cam battery died on route (lost them). Ok, this weekend's activity. yesterday was large & messy, 3-4 foot and NNE wind/groundswell combo. Today was a much more interesting observation; we had the mess morph into a solid 10-12 sec period groundswell that peaked at about 5 foot early-mid afternoon with the high tide. It continued to clean up as the afternoon progressed and got quite hollow as the tide dropped. Today was a "good" day for here.

On the three times I went past the reef there was no-one on it, yet at the "Main Beach (google-earth it) only 1km further west up the road it was packed. At least 50 guys out all day. I had 3 surfs there today.

Today the reef should be working, it should present lined up A -frame peaks breaking from a consistant repeating focal point and focusing down either side of the leading edge. Becoming better & hollower as the tide fell to dead-low late afternoon. Nope.
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