Disaster!

[xswind]

Oh right, cheers XSWind, I really didnt know that, there was me waitin for it to go hard.
I have to do the other side of my board first with laminate before hot coating.
Oh and cool van story KS, made me feel not quite as stupid!

Steve

there was a thread started by Dec recently where poly resin and "wax in Styrene" was descussed.

FYI when mixing up your sanding coat resin you will need to add approx 3% of the "5% Wax in Styrene" addative to your resin.

[kitesurfer]

[quote="xswind
FYI when mixing up your sanding coat resin you will need to add approx 3% of the "5% Wax in Styrene" addative to your resin.[/quote]

Recomend you read the label for the correct amount. My tins say 1.2%.

[scuba steve]

Yeah will do.
I know what to do with the hot coating and everything. My problem was not knowing that the resin doesnt go hard and obviously the bug thing.
The rest I think I know.

[xswind]

[quote="xswind
FYI when mixing up your sanding coat resin you will need to add approx 3% of the "5% Wax in Styrene" addative to your resin.

Recomend you read the label for the correct amount. My tins say 1.2%.[/quote]

KS points out a valid point, especially after his boob by not reading the label properly (oops that’s a secret LoL)

[scuba steve]

Nah, I've just had a look at the board and turned it over, the lap is a mess, there's air bubbles everywhere as well as the fact practically none of it is stuck down. The board was not really dry enough to flp over and is sticking to the racks. My squeegee is covered in sand from where I dropped it in a panic. Pretty much the worst glass job you could imagine on the underside of the board. With my lack of skills there is no chance I can fix it. I'd sand it off but its still gooey.

I think all that is left is for me to try and dispose of the remains and leave this shaping business to the pros.
Or I could get back on the horse and try another board, dont think I can go through all this again though.

[drowningbitbybit]

This thread was funny at first - but now Im feeling more and more sorry for Steve

C'mon ladies, give him a hug (I'd offer but you probably dont want a hug from me)

It also makes me think that I'll bin any ideas of shaping for the time being until Ive got a dedicated shed for the job.

[kitesurfer]

Steve before you dispose of the evidence send us some photos, pm them to me if you want them not in the public domain. Maybe we can sort you out some herculian board saving. Trust me you can save almost anything and it would be a shame for your efforts to go to waste with no board to show for it.

Cheers

KS

[scuba steve]

Pics coming.

[scuba steve]

The mess:
these pictures really dont do it justice, and also its still really, really sticky, hence the big bubbles on the bottom form where I had to pull it from the racks.

[scuba steve]

And more!

[kitesurfer]

If the resin is till really sticky and soft then there is a chance it will peel off and also be cutable with a stanly knife still.
Try it on the deck and if the glass pulls off without tearing the foam too much then this is what i would consider doing.
Get a brand new very sharp stanly knife and cut a line around the deck edge close to where your rails come round from the sides onto the deck through the glass. Don't worry about going into the foam just don't go too deep.
Hopefully this will allow you to carefully peel off the messy lap back to the the line you've just cut and hence getting rid of most of your air bubbles on the deck.
To save the board you do need to remove the edge of your glass where all the dry areas are as you won't be able to sand them off.
If your glass is too hard to cut then if you have a dremmel you can cut it with this, using your thumb and hand with the rail edge as a guide you could quickly grind in the line and then pull off offending glass.
The areas on the bottom can be easily fixed to by cutting out the lifted glass and glassing in a patch.
Don't despair because once you fixed those bits and glassed the deck you can give the board a good sand/going over with a sharp rasp to get rid of all your high spots then the hotcoating will allow you to get the board flat.

Good luck.

KS

[scuba steve]

Cheers KS I'll give that a go.

[xswind]

Totaly agree with KS on this one, it does look savable try what he suggests and do not give up.

What resin ratio did you mix up?

[scuba steve]

Do youmean in terms of the amount of catalyst I put in witht the resin?
If so then it was 5ccs of catalyst and 2 pints of resin

[xswind]

Do youmean in terms of the amount of catalyst I put in witht the resin?
If so then it was 5ccs of catalyst and 2 pints of resin

I mean %age of cat vs resen, for example the poly both myself and KS use requires about 1-2% cat to resin.

I just wanted to check your mixing ratios, so I can tell if you have mixed enough cat. in.

Too little cat and it will either not go off at all or take an ice age too go off.

Another trick is to induce some heat, try putting a heater on it for an hour or so. This can help kick the exothermic reaction into life.

Both KS and myself generally put some heat into the workshop after laminating after working in cold conditions.

[thaya]

This thread was funny at first - but now Im feeling more and more sorry for Steve

C'mon ladies, give him a hug (I'd offer but you probably dont want a hug from me)

BIG HUG FROM ME!

[tomcat360]

You do understand though that a lam will always be tacky to feel. Now, if it's actually soft, that's different.

But don't give up! Glassing is the toughest part for pretty much everyone's first boards, just because of the panic/chaos/everything else. So give it another whirl, maybe you can watch someone glass a few boards. Even if you don't wanna glass again, did you enjoy shaping? If so, you can still shape boards and then get them sent off to a glasser.

But if you wait on the cutting....it will be much harder. Like if you are doing cut laps, and wait too long, you end up having to do them with a grinder instead of a knife.

[kitesurfer]

*Fingers tapping impatiently waiting for an update from steve detailing his next move!*

[tomcat360]

*more fingers.....*

[sal]

Poor you Steve, after all that hard work. it looks like it would have been a nice board too.

Big hugs and good luck for your next one!!!