Fins Setup Single vs. 2+1

[Tudeo]

It’s a beast...... no accident on my buying when I did. Smelled desperation, got some more knocked off on top of the price cut so a super deal.

He started his pricing at a hopefull 7j, if I remember correct.

There's something strange with the dimensions on the website https://shop.surfindustries.com/us/surf ... longboard/

Maybe different foil?

[saltydog]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0154/ ... 6641856180.
This table from Walden website has the same dims as bigH’s, so maybe the board is directly from the Walden shelf. Nice looking board! Would that paddles like a longboard but rides like a short board???

[waikikikichan]

Would that paddles like a longboard but rides like a short board???

At 23 1/2 inches wide ......... no way. But would it catch and get into waves early like a 9’0 ......... I would say Yes.

[saltydog]

Great thread!

Thanks for this subject Waikikikichan, very interested in it since I just bought a Single fin 9'4 from a local shaper.
Epoxy with wooden stringer, 9'4x23x3, 16" tail and 18"nose, 9" fin, blended nose concave and then rounded vee until the tail.

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I also have a PU 9'2 with 2+1 fins and a 8'2 thruster.

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Surfed it four times now. The first thing I noticed was it's great paddle speed, but I had to figure out positioning on the board first, when I move forward it seems to slows down. The nose has a deep concave and when I move back until most of the concave is above the water it speeds up paddling a lot.

I rode it first in head high frontside (right) waves, and it was great. I got the impression it was faster than the other boards, I made sections with ease were for the other boards the wave would have ended. But I'm still not sure if this is purely speed or the different riding style. This board invites me to walk forward and speed down the line instead of making turns.

The nose feels stable in the right situation but I still have a mental block to make that last step. I just stand there, one step short, looking in awe. It feels great.

I tried it in overhead lefts, my backside, but had trouble controlling it. A lot of wiping out. Also this was on a lower tide and the waves were a bit too steep for my inexperience with this board. Yesterday was shoulder high and felt perfect. This was a different left wave spot, and again I made sections I normally don't, I just could keep going from all the way outside until shore dump, crazy!

On the downside, this board is not so easy to handle critically angled late drops. Were the other 2 boards let me set the rail and take off, this one just gets sweeped sideways. Also I noticed when walking forward when the board is speeding in head high, the fin can start sliding away. But in a controllable way, step back and the fin engages again.

Then there's pearling. The pearl when paddling for the wave, too far forward on the board and the nose sinks away. This is the relaxed pearl vs the neckbreaker pearl after you popped up and are too late with turning down the line, the nose catches sending you headfirst over the board, hoping for deep water..

But I'm sure i'll get better at avoiding this with more experience. Yesterday I noticed in time I was too late to paddle for the wave, a right, and I timed my popup in the moment the wave pitched me, It worked out perfect, lesson learned. Now I got to figure this out for the many lefts here..

That’s pretty interesting because I’ve had pretty much the same experience with my flat rockered 9’ single fin with a nice nose concave to double to vee. And I mostly ride a right side rocky point break going backside, and I have a tendency to catch a little too late. Mine paddles great and glides fast and long, but so hard to catch a wave. When you have figured things out, please share. Love that shade of green glass job btw!

[saltydog]

Would that paddles like a longboard but rides like a short board???

At 23 1/2 inches wide ......... no way. But would it catch and get into waves early like a 9’0 ......... I would say Yes.

Of course! Should have remembered the mini tanker I used to have. At 8x23x3, it paddled pretty well and flew down the line, but it wasn’t meant for ripping. Mega magic probably has other design features that are more conducive for whipping around than mine though... asumming the rider has the skills.

[Big H]

I rode it today...paddles great, but different....same literage as my 10'4" but the longer board paddles and glides the best still. Still though the mega paddled well and kept me out longer even though I'm out of shape. Fit into the wave better than a longer board, more responsive swing weight which made the steep beach break I was riding more manageable than with a longer board.....had more control getting into the wave using my back arching like on a shortboard than I do on a longer board. To surf it is a pig.....like having safety bumpers strapped all around the board. Responsive is not what it is really and have to slightly exaggerate movements to get results.....works for me ok because I am big but I could see that for a smaller person it might take more effort. To be fair the waves today weren't great....had some size, getting overhead and hollow on some sets. Had a lot of good rides though, got in earlier than anyone else and milked it longer, pumping the board which is easier than on a longer board but not like a shortboard. Definitely a fun fun board and allowed me to get the most out of the waves out there. Got a compliment on the board in the water and another on the beach coming out where an Aussie stopped me up and asked me what kind of board I had because I was going so fast.....showed him the twin fin stabi setup and he smiled. Good board, does not paddle like a longboard (close), easy to catch waves with (extended range for a better surfer since the volume makes getting in earlier an option and the shorter length makes later drops on steeper waves more manageable. Does not surf like a shortboard....rails are still fat, board is really wide. Pluses and minuses but all in all pretty much as advertised and will be my go to board for a lot of different conditions especially on days where I am feeling my age and am happy to just get out there and not burn too much energy (caught between 14h shifts for instance).
Good Times!

[Big H]

Here’s the fin setup for now....will try thruster, single, 2+1 but for the moment this one will stay on since it seemed to work.

[RinkyDink]

Take a look at the step in the deck; that’s keeping the volume without overly fat rails. Have t surfed it yet but got on it in the pool and it should paddle like my 10’ board I would guess.

That's a really cool feature. That board looks like so much fun.

[Big H]

Surfed it a few times now....really a lot of fun. Changed to 2+1 and feels more familiar. Here’s a pic to show size relative to the 10’4” longboard of similar volume.

[Big H]

This is my 8.2 fungun setup. Single 8” with two mini sidebites. Maintains single fin flow and feel with a little added hold and stability esp through turns.

[waikikikichan]

These TMF-2 fins ( don’t ask what TMF means ) are a good cheap alternative if you want to see what small side bites can/can’t do. They're only 2 inches tall.
They run about $12 usd for 1. ( technically it’s the nubster center fin for your quad )

[Z mann R2]

I’m so excited about this topic!!

I’ve never surfed single fin. I’ve had so many different longboards but oddly have always had either side bites or ran as a traditional thruster (or in case of my 8’6 Submoon, large quads).

So I bought a 9’6 Bear All Around and decided to pop in an FCS II 10” connect single fin. I can’t wait to feel how this puppy turns and rides in the pocket.

I’ll try to get a better pic with the fin installed.

Btw FCS II longboard fins are amazing! Can’t wait to slide it back n forth in the box mid-session to feel the differences.

[Tudeo]

That's a beauty! Do you got the dimms with nose and tail (1 foot of) width? And maybe a pic of the rocker profile? Very curious how it goes.

I like the idea of FCS II system to change fin position in the water, but I'm a bit worried of losing such an expensive fin. If I'm not wrong I've read some stories of people losing them.

[Big H]

I screw in my fcs 2 fins for double protection.....(thrusters)

[Big H]

Tried this the other day and yesterday on the mega....not as good as the cutaway set up....best so far was the thruster and then the twin set ups.

[Z mann R2]

That's a beauty! Do you got the dimms with nose and tail (1 foot of) width? And maybe a pic of the rocker profile? Very curious how it goes.

I like the idea of FCS II system to change fin position in the water, but I'm a bit worried of losing such an expensive fin. If I'm not wrong I've read some stories of people losing them.

I’ll post some soon as it gets back from
The ding repair. Shipping put a tiny dent in it.

Ya I thought that too but it’s pretty damn firmly placed in there. Also my fin was only $27 on eBay so if I lose it It’s not a huge loss then I’ll switch brands lol

[Z mann R2]

I screw in my fcs 2 fins for double protection.....(thrusters)

This is the FCS II longboard fin. It fins in traditional longboard find boxes. Kinda snaps in and out but there’s no place for a screw like the regular FCS II fins

[Z mann R2]

Tried this the other day and yesterday on the mega....not as good as the cutaway set up....best so far was the thruster and then the twin set ups.

Man you got a finatic account? You going through lots of combos that’s awesome.

Edit: oh hell nevermind you’re in Bali, lol

[BoMan]

Yes we have rabbits.

You must have them trained to use a potty box. I baby sat one rabbit for my daughter and had pellets everywhere!

[RinkyDink]

Got a “new” used board yesterday. Cleaned it up and put a fresh wax on it; haven’t set up the fins yet. Going to start with a cutaway 6.5” and two side bites which I think are 3.75”....the bigger size side bites anyway. Board is an 8’ Walden mega magic with 84L volume which should be awesome for the upcoming wet / small swell season.

So how 'bout a review of the Mega. What are your impressions of it? What kind of waves does it thrive in? Is there a drawback to all that volume?