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hawaii

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:54 am
by TokyotheKid
i heard that hawaiians are really racist on some of the islands especially toward the tourists that come. my friend told me that but i dont remember it being like that, but i was like 5 when i went to maui and that was once in my life.. so yeahh


later skaters

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:29 am
by duhkine
Ok, I'm pretty sure that almost anyone in this forum can't answer this question better than me. First of all, not everyone in Hawaii is Hawaiian. Hawaiian is an ethnicity and all Hawaiians are extremely proud of their roots. The reason why Hawaiians may be racist or territorial is because the "haoles" or foreign people took away the land that was rightfully theirs.

http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/i/israelk ... 39741.html

Israel Kamakawiwoole, probably one of the greatest Hawaiian musicians who passed away, wrote the song in the link above, which represents what all Hawaiians feel about industrialization. This song brings tears to some peoples' eyes no matter how many times you listen to it. Its a powerful song that all Hawaiians would agree on.

Some Hawaiians are even pushing for justice and for a separate nation, or sovereignty. Thats how strongly they feel about others taking their home away. Hawaiians are not necessarily racist because I'd estimate about 95% of all Hawaiians are not pureblood or kanaka maoli. However, if you have Hawaiian blood, you consider yourself very Hawaiian and you take pride in your cultural background. Hawaiians may just have negative thoughts about tourists because they associate tourists with the people who stole their land but Hawaiians realize that most of the economy in Hawaii is run off of tourism. In fact, some Hawaiians depend on tourists for their businesses, such as a Hawaiian luau, surfing lessons or hula lessons.

Don't let what one person tells you persuade you from the truth. Hawaiians just have very strong bonds and roots, but most just want their rights that they should rightfully have, but don't. So if you ever meet a Hawaiian, many of them like to stick with their own race, but you can easily become a good friend because of the outside influence that they know cannot be avoided. All Hawaiians are not bad like some may think and as long as you understand their feelings and situation, you will come to appreciate just how honorable it is to be Hawaiian (I would love to be Hawaiian).

What I said may not be true, but this is my perspective, especially since I know many Hawaiians and attend a school populated by many Hawaiians. Sorry for the long post.

Aloha and Imua!

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:05 pm
by rctkj
I went to Maui two years ago with my, at that time 18 year old son. We stayed in Lahina and had a blast. We met some local guys out in the water and they invited us to a party. We met a bunch of cool people at the party and had free food and drinks.
If you go there watch out for a guy that hangs out in his truck on the side of the road just north of Lahina as you enter the rain forest he yells out, "Maui Wowi" don't buy it it's bunk.
Last year I went to Wikiki and cut off this Hawian dude, he was going left I droped in going right. He gave me a ration then kept on cackling untill I paddled up to him put my arms up and said lets go. He just said I should respect the locals. WTF? There had to be three to four hundred people in the water and I think that only ten of them could surf.
I went to CR this year I liked it way more than Hawaii.

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:38 pm
by duhkine
Most of the people in Waikiki are pretty mellow and they know that most people who surf in Waikiki can't surf. There are several people who hog all the waves and cuss at others for doing something that they didn't know was wrong. Most surfers aren't like that but many out in the country are and they don't like tourists coming to their home break. Since the waves in Hawaii are so nice and many people surf, its only natural that conflict will occur. There's about 800,000 people on Oahu for roughly 30 surf breaks, so you get the idea. As long as you respect, take your fair share of waves and know how to surf pretty well, locals will almost always respect you back.

By the way, I'd like to consider myself one of those 10 people who can surf at Waikiki. :)

Aloha!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:02 am
by gar
waikiki is f'n ridiculous, just so many people, its a death trap!

duhkine

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:02 am
by hawaiiSUCKSexceptsurf
dude-
you have a different perspective than others do because youre accepted by them. i went to waikiki once and 3 idiots messed with me. one was about 45 and he was missing his front teeth. ill never forget that disgusting low life's face. i've never been back since. the funny part is that im 6'2 and i ride a shortboard, not a fish, thats 6'0. all those fu*ks were on longboards, and yet they called my haole kook. dumb fu_ks.
hawaiian is just a race, it doesnt give them any more right than anyone else. i dont go around bitching about how the english opressed the scotish and took what was rightfully mine, because it wasnt mine, it was my ancestors. some hawaiians are very nice and humble, but some are not. some are so ignorant their just as bad as hicks in the south, and wouldnt give a xxxxx who i am as a person, blinded by the fact that my hair is blonde and my eyes are green. most hawaiians who are racist are full of so much xxxxx that they dont even express the attitudes of the culture their so proud of, and some of these racists are advocates for hawaiian causes, as ive seen in recent news stories about the kamehameha school controversy. sticking together is so full of crap. if you do that then you are racist. sticking with your own race just preeds prejudice. learn to have an open mind.