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Noob on trip

Postby VincentCloud » Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:55 am

Hi all

After the separation from my girlfriend (eight long years) I have to do something new! So I decided to travel to the west coast for three weeks starting on May 26, on my one.

I haven’t done something similar yet. The Plan is to drive south from San Francisco to San Diego and hit several surf spots, meet plenty of peoples and simply have fun. I’m not very expired in surfing (how should I, I’m from Switzerland and as You may know there’s no see :) ) so I need to get practice as soon as I arrive to cal.

So can some of You guys tell me were to get some practice in my starting region San Francisco?
Furthermore what are the spots to hit? Where’s the place to meet peoples especially some chicks? :lol:

Just to make sure I’m not a fat untrained men, I do a lot of sport. I also like skating (longboard) and have advanced practice in body boarding (in Spain, French, Portugal). So I think I will achieve a fast level up on that.

Thanks & regards,
Vincent
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby jaffa1949 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:33 pm

Vincent, sadly, you are deluding yourself, take some lessons for a while, read through the learner posts, figure out the board for your height and weight.
If you are not sure tell us that information and we can help further.
There are a heap of posts as to why skateboarding and snow boarding do not immediately make a surfer of you.
I also hope you can swim well and can learn about rips and other hazards!
Now the good news, as you head further south there are plenty of surf schools and camps that can help. Get thoroughly bitten by the surf bug and old girlfriends will be forgotten. :lol:
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby VincentCloud » Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:41 pm

Hi Jaffa.

I'm not deluding myselft. Look at the subject. I call myself a noob :)

But thx for the answer.
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby oldmansurfer » Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:08 pm

Surfing in that area you will need a wetsuit. Feel free to ask the others about wetsuits but I am from Hawaii so don't use them. I am not familiar with breaks in San Francisco (except Mavericks which is a big wave spot and not suited for you), and a break that is right next to the Golden Gate Bridge but it breaks infrequently. I think your best bet is to find surf instructors over there and get some lessons and help from them who would have much more specific knowledge of where a noob could surf along that coast. You say you had advanced practice in bodyboarding. Does that include drop knee riding? If so that may help. If not then it's much easier to ride lying down. If you are used to drop knee then standing up will be easier. Standing will be a whole new thing but your wave knowledge will come in handy. Welcome to the forum.
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby jaffa1949 » Thu Mar 26, 2015 10:54 pm

VincentCloud wrote:
Just to make sure I’m not a fat untrained men, I do a lot of sport. I also like skating (longboard) and have advanced practice in body boarding (in Spain, French, Portugal). So I think I will achieve a fast level up on that.

Thanks & regards,
Vincent


I know you call yourself a noob so not deluded, it is the last sentence about a fast level up that is problem,
Surfing will put you exactly where you belong in the foodchain.
Überraschung compare these things, land based board sports; you don't have to paddle back up piste or uphill for 300metres after each run , the hill doesn't try to push you to the beach multiple times before you can make another run..
You are already standing, you point yourself downhill and you begin.

But here are the big issues.
Surfing you are lying down, you have to paddle to match the wave speed ( which is changeable even in that one wave) somewhere in that equation you have to stand up!
The time in which you stand up is the most critical, 99% of our noob letters are about pearling (nosediving) .
BTW I really am not disrespecting you just poking you a little with a stick of realities.
I wish you new girlfriends to heal those wounds and salt water arranged meaningful to wash it well :lol: :lol:
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby waikikikichan » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:35 am

Imagine you want to learn how to play Tennis. But everyday the court is different. One asphalt, one day grass and one day clay. It'll be easier if you learn at one spot before moving on to the next. By you travelling to different surf breaks each one has a learning curve to get to know the break. Plus the "locals" need time to warm up to you and figure you out. But your not there long enough. And since your a self professed " noob" that means your don't have the skills to get out of peoples way. By being at a unfamiliar break, that makes the situation more dire.

Advice: come bearing gifts. buy everyone a beer or soda. Take care of them, they'll take care of you.
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby VincentCloud » Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:51 am

Yay, thanks to all of you guys for answering! I'm very motivated to learn it, so do never let anyone tell you what you can’t.

@ oldmansurfer:
Mavericks is definitely not the right spot for me, I’m aware of that. :)
Just as you sad, my plan is to find an instructor somewhere at the starting location. Since this is the greater Frisco area I’m also aware of the need of a wetsuit. And finally no I haven’t yet done knee riding.

@Jaffa:
No probs man, we’re cool :)

@waikikikichan:
Thanks for the tip, I will try to stay at a point for a longer time to get more practice. Need to evaluate which surf spot provides best condition for beginners.
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby oldmansurfer » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:28 pm

I thought maybe since you were advanced bodyboarder you tried drop knee. It's halfway to standing up. Even if you kneeboarded it would be easier since there is a popup with kneeboarding and a good popup is a must for advancing through the stages of surfing. Just for you info here is a page on drop knee bodyboarding http://www.surfertoday.com/bodyboarding/9039-how-to-ride-drop-knee-in-bodyboarding
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby billie_morini » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:21 am

Aloha Vincent,
You will need a 4/3 mm wetsuit. This weight suit is almost always needed north of San Francisco in Marin and Mendocino counties. It is also needed south of San Francisco all the way to Ventura County in Spring due to cold water upwelling.

The Pacific Ocean right in San Francisco is not friendly to beginners. You can, however, go north to Bolinas. That is a fun place even for intermediate surfers. You can also go to Dillon Beach even farther north. This is a very good beach to work on crumbly waves. They just keep coming all day long.

The surfing lessons closest to San Francisco are available from two or more vendors in Pacifica. However, Pacifica does not offer very good surf.

My suggestion is to go straight to Santa Cruz and spend a lot of time there. There is nearly always surf. The water is cold, but very clean. In addition to Bolinas located north of San Francisco, I used to go to Santa Cruz, located south of Santa Cruz, when I lived in NorCAL, Santa Cruz has a very big surfing community, many vendors providing lessons, a good used board market, many surf breaks, and a surf museum in an old lighthouse. Two breaks I surfed a lot in Santa Cruz that you may like are Pleasure Point and 38th Street. While in Santa Cruz, also visit the O"Neill Surf Shop. It is very large!

You can build your entire holiday around Santa Cruz. However, if you continue south, then you should be able to find some beginner / intermediate surf in Cayucas and Pismo Beach before you reach Santa Barbara.

Santa Barbara is flat in Summer. So, simply visit when driving south. I suggest you visit the original Channel Islands Surf Shop. Might as well go to J7 and the Beach House shops, too, because they are a 4 minute walk from Channel Island.

Continuing south, you should try to surf at Surfer's Point in Ventura. This is a very large surfing area that actually has some surf in Spring. You should also try to surf at Huntington Beach pier. This is the center of Surf City USA and, therefore, quite notable. While in Huntington Beach, get breakfast, lunch, or dinner at the Sugar Shack Cafe. This restaurant has long catered to surfers. In fact, it is owned by a notable surfer. There is also a good surfing museum within walking distance of the pier and cafe. You will enjoy going to the massive surf shops located close to the pier. They are Jack's and Huntington Beach Surf Shop. They are across the street from one another and within walking distance to everything else I've mentioned.

If you continue south, you must try to surf at San Onofre state beach in northern San Diego County. The Dog Patch break there provides longboarders with rides longer than 1 minute under the right conditions. It is one of my favorite breaks. Tandem teams practice there and that is always amazing to see when up close in the water with them. The water is usually warm here and you may become warm in your 4/3 mm suit. If you plan on surfing there for more than a couple of days, as well as continue to San Diego, you may want to buy a 3/2 mm suit. I would get one in Santa Barbara's Beach House store, anyone of many shops in Santa Cruz (including O'neills), or either of the two big shops in Huntington Beach. You find good selection and OK pricing.

In San Diego there are many surf breaks. There is usually surf somewhere no matter which way the swells and wind are going. However, San Diego reminds me of surfing in San Francisco. It's a city with city vibe - not a surfing vibe. So, I don't like it.

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Re: Noob on trip

Postby drowningbitbybit » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:53 am

There's always someone on here that knows the spot isn't there? :D
You'll probably find me surfing, but if not, I'll probably be in the photography studio
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby jaffa1949 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:31 am

Some that know will never tell. :lol: 8)
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby VincentCloud » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:13 am

@billie_morini
Yay man, thanks a lot for your tips. That's exactly what I wanted to find within a surfer community. So again thanks a lot :)
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby jaffa1949 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:43 am

Billy is a good go to guy for information on California, great he could help! :D
Should your escape from your old love ever lead you to Australia, I can help with the surfing bit :lol: )
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby billie_morini » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:48 am

Hi again, Vincent Cloud. Glad I could help you. This post provides a few more notes.

There is a book you should get, study, and travel with. It is Surfing California - A Complete Guide to the Best Breaks on the California Coast written by Raul Guisado and Jeff Klaas. My copy was published in 2005 by The Globe Pequot Press.

There are two good sources for used boards in CA: 1) Craigslist in any surfing town, of which there are many, and 2) surf shops in the surfing towns.

I failed to mention where to find the surf break locations in Cayucos and Pismo. In both locations, go to the pier.

Some additional surf breaks in SoCAL that you may like are: 1) Malibu, 2) Leo Carillo, 3) San Clemente, 4) Newport Beach, and 5) Blackies. You would try Malibu because it is famous. You'd try Leo Carillo because it's nearly always firing. You'd try the remaining 3 to achieve variation within Orange County. You'll also find San Clemente is pretty.
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Re: Noob on trip

Postby billie_morini » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:53 am

Hi Jaffa,
thanks for the acknowledgement!
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