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Moving to Australia after college?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:44 pm
by Guest
I'm thinking about moving to Australia, after college. I read that you need to have a skill that is needed. I'm double majoring in Finance and Accounting, would it be hard to immigrate to Australia, if I live in the U.S.?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:28 pm
by drowningbitbybit
You need a skill... and to have experience in that skill. Typically at least two years - having a degree isnt enough (there are exceptions to this for stuff thats really needed - finance isnt one of them).

if you're young, got a degree, no criminal record, no disabilities or infectious diseases, then eventually you'll get in... but its not a case of just filling in a form and the aussies welcoming you with open arms.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:53 am
by RJD

Re: Moving to Australia after college?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:58 am
by Hang11
Thromback wrote: I'm double majoring in Finance and Accounting, would it be hard to immigrate to Australia, if I live in the U.S.?


I'm pretty sure you need to have relevant work experience to qualifications to get the points for skills.

And you would need to do a professional qualification in OZ, on top of the degree.

But, being a bean counter myself, you'll have no worries finding work, and with a few years of the right experience under your belt, you can earn a bloody fortune.

I work for an ozzie company, but not in oz, they have a real hard time getting staff, and aren't scared of paying $200k+ a year salaries.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:48 am
by Guest
Well I'm a fresshmen at college, and im doing Auditing already. I'll have four years experience when I leave for accounting auditing. Would that count?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:10 am
by drowningbitbybit
Thromback wrote:Well I'm a fresshmen at college, and im doing Auditing already. I'll have four years experience when I leave for accounting auditing. Would that count?


Unlikely.
First of all, you need to be a 'qualified' professional with a skill (again, with some exceptions, mostly in IT) for a number of years and your level of skill is tested/assessed by a certifying body in Australia.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:19 am
by Guest
damn, looks like i wont be going to Australia for awhile... The work experience only counts, once I have a degree, right?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:07 am
by Thibb
Correct. First the degree, then the experience, then the entire evaluation and application process. Even that last part can take up to half a year, although you can also get it over with in less than half of that. It all depends on the different circumstances.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:10 am
by drowningbitbybit
Thromback wrote:damn, looks like i wont be going to Australia for awhile... The work experience only counts, once I have a degree, right?


The alternative is to get your degree, then get a company to sponsor you for a temporary business (457) visa for a couple of years. Then after that you can apply for permanent residency.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:08 pm
by Guest
ya ill try that, thanks a lot

PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:14 pm
by sadir
just a suggestion of some uninformed person:

why not just apply for temporary permission to live in australia?
I would think it's easier to attain and you see if you really want to live there;
and if you lived there for some time, you can still see if you can get a permanent residency

PS: haha I like it how there are no german visa (?....w/e) formulars but bosnian, greek or croatian formulars...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:00 am
by Guest
Would I be able to work there, if I got one of those?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:50 am
by drowningbitbybit
Thromback wrote:Would I be able to work there, if I got one of those?


Dont listen to someone who says they are uninformed :roll:

Australia is extremely strict about who they let in, and who they will let work. There is no such thing as 'temporary permission to live in australia' :roll:

Your options are...

Visitors (tourist) visa - valid for a year, no working.

Student holiday working visa - valid for one year, you can work, but not for longer than three months for one employer. And this wont help you get in long term at all.

Short stay business visa - if you have a skill thats required by an australian company that they cant find locally, they sponsor you to come to work for them for a couple of years. You can only work for them during this time.

Permanent visa - you need to have enough points (a skill plus experience, plus a bunch of other requirements) and to go through a mountain of paperwork and it'll take six months, or more likely a year. More if there are any problems. You can also be sponsored by an employer but thats no guarantee you'll get permanent residency, and you need to have a very high level of skill to be sponsored for permanent residency.



If you're remotely serious, then you need to be reading http://www.immi.gov.au/ not asking random people on the internet.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:14 am
by Hang11
^^^One other option, move to NZ (it's nicer with less ozzies :wink: ), stay for 5 years, get New Zealand citizenship, and then you can go and live and work in that fly ridden water starved snake infested dust bowl, and claim all the lovely tax rebates they hand out to tempt people to move there.

Then when it gets on your nerves, you can move back to NZ and spend the tax refunds.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:44 am
by RJD
Hang11 wrote:^^^One other option, move to NZ (it's nicer with less ozzies :wink: ), stay for 5 years, get New Zealand citizenship, and then you can go and live and work in that fly ridden water starved snake infested dust bowl, and claim all the lovely tax rebates they hand out to tempt people to move there.

Then when it gets on your nerves, you can move back to NZ and spend the tax refunds.


Although NZ citizens rights to live and work in Australia may well be removed within that 5-6 year timeframe.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:37 pm
by sadir
as I said I don't know nothing
and it was only a suggestion

and why the hell is australia so strict with this immigration thing?
are ther so many ppl who want to live there?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:25 pm
by joem
how hard is it to get into nz pemently, im intending to get a workin holiday veisor for me gap year, im form the UK if that makes any diferance

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:05 pm
by Hang11
joem wrote:how hard is it to get into nz pemently, im intending to get a workin holiday veisor for me gap year, im form the UK if that makes any diferance


Not too hard if you can get a job offer, gets easier if you have a degree and/or skills on the shortage list.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:15 pm
by joem
well im planing on gettin a degree, so when iv done that ill try and get a job offer

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:18 pm
by Sar
The sponsership sounds like the best route. I work for an investment bank in the UK and I know our Sydney offices are crying out for staff to move over there and as far as I can tell most investment banks are searching for people with finance and accounting degrees as they seem to be rather limited. The bonus is the HR dept sort out all the paperwork for you to.