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Postby andrew84 » Wed May 28, 2008 3:51 am

Hey guys & gals,

First of all, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who takes the time out of their busy schedule to help total strangers out like myself. I've been doing some reading on this forum and there's some awesome stuff!

I have never surfed before and just bought my first board. Went to a local shop and bought a cheaper board they had. It's a JLS brand, 8' 0" long, 22 5/8" wide, and 2 5/8" or 7/8" thick. I am 5' 8" and weigh about 195 lbs. I go to the gym 5 times a week,(lifting weights) so i'm not too out of shape. Basically, I want to make sure that I won't sink this board. Is the board thick enough? Does anyone know if these boards are decent quality? I Also since I'll surf at Galveston/ Surfside is there anyone in the area there that gives out lessons or is looking for a surfing buddy? I really wanna go this weekend to try it out, but I don't even know how to wax my board! :oops:

pm me if you want regarding lessons. Thanks Guys/ Gals!







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Postby pkbum » Wed May 28, 2008 3:53 am

That board should be perfect for learning. And for waxing on your surfboard: just wax it??
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Postby BoarderDave » Wed May 28, 2008 2:57 pm

Yeah, I agree.. looks like a great board to learn on. Good pick up! :D

As for waxing, I tend to use the edge of the wax to lay down a cross hatch of lines as a base, then I just wax in circular motions all around where I need it. Just put the wax where you think you will be laying/standing. The more often you do it, you'll pick up on the spots that get the most wear, and the spots that maybe you waxed that you never even touch. (first couple times I did it, I ended up overshooting up top and waxing a lot of the semi-nose area that was never touched. Not that it really makes a major difference, I guess it's just a few more ounces of weight. hehe.)

Good luck.. and most important of all; have fun. 8)
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Postby andrew84 » Thu May 29, 2008 4:11 am

I appreciate the advice and comments. I'm glad I chose a good board, because honestly I was starting to have doubts there for a minute. Is there a right or wrong way to wax a board?
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Postby billie_morini » Thu May 29, 2008 4:48 am

andrew,
welcome a-"board." You have a very pretty board there. I was a little amused when you wrote, "Basically, I want to make sure that I won't sink this board." I was thinking, "Just go try it." Anyway, you are going to find it to be a fine board.

Board Waxing:
1. Wrong way = wax on bottom
2. Right way = wax on top (i.e., deck)

This is what I do to wax the deck:
1. Work in cool spot that does not have direct sunlight. Place board on grass, carpet, etc
2. Apply base coat. Spread a light film across the entire ridable portion of the deck. Slide the wax bar back and forth. After covering the deck with film, start moving the bar in small circles. Build some beads or bumps. Move wax all around board and bump up the entire surface. This base coat process could take as much as 15 minutes.
3. Apply top coat. Move wax bar in tight circles from nose to tail and then from rail to rail. then go diagonally from rail to rail. If wax smears, then rotate bar and keep making circles.

Some people use two different waxes for base and top coat. I don't.
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Postby andrew84 » Fri May 30, 2008 1:09 am

thanks for the video. very helpful. i have a base coat wax and a top coat wax.

1.) how much wax do i use? do i use an entire bar?

2.) also, after i get done surfing and come back home, do i leave the wax on or do i need to clean the board?

3.) how long can i leave the wax on for?

4.) how do i know when i need to re-wax the board?
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Postby RJD » Fri May 30, 2008 1:21 am

1) enough to give a good grip anywhere your feet will end up.

2) Leave the wax on, just 'top it up' or use a wax comb

3) untill it turns black and sinks the board. Or untill you fancy cleaning it, every year or two mebe.

4) when you pop up and fall off because theres not enough wax on some spots.
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Postby billie_morini » Fri May 30, 2008 1:35 am

andrew,
if you complete steps 2 and 3 in my post above, then the amount of wax to use becomes evident. Usually with a long board, you'll use 1/4 bar for base coat and 1/4 bar for top coat. I use same wax for both coats and use about one-half bar to wax the board.

Leave the wax on after surfing. You can leave wax on for 3 to 6 months. When you go surfing again you may have to add a little more wax. You'll know to add it if the existing wax is not sticky. If you have not surfed in a couple of weeks, it will likely be hard and not sticky. Add a thin layer just before hitting the water again.

Another way to extend the use of the wax on the board is to comb it or rough it with wet sand in the shallow water instead of adding more wax. After I've got a thick layer built up, say 3/8 inch, I don't add wax. I comb it. To use the comb, just rake it from nose to tail and diagonally from rail to rail. Lately, I've been doing this with only about 1/8 inch wax on the board. My buddy goes to ankle deep water, placed a big scoop of sand on the deck, and rubs it all around while the water is washing over the board.

You will know to re-wax the board when one of two things occur. One: when the wax offers no grip. You may find you can't hold onto the rails without your hands slipping off or your feet slip out from under you when trying to stand. When this happens, add wax or comb existing wax.

Two: when thick wax begins to fall off in sections. When this happens, lay board in sun for 20 to 30 minutes. Then scrape wax off with straight edge of comb or a plastic auto body filler spreader. Do not use metal object. You can use warm water, acetone, denatured alcohol and many other things to remove the very thin film of remaining wax. After removing wax, begin with numbered item 1 in my previous post.

Other notes:

1. don't wax board in sandy area. Don't place wax bar in sand. If you do these things, you will get sand in your wax. A little is OK. Too much is unsightly and unpleasant (skin scrap).
2. If you don't over wax the board, you'll pretty much always have wax on your board.
3. carry waxed deck away from your body or you will be covered in wax
4. if you use a wetsuit, the knees of your suit will get some wax caked on them. Don't worry about it.
5. select wax for the temperature water you surf in. The waxes are rated. In the old days, guys simply used things like Gulf Oil parrafin, which was a reasonable quality white wax. You really can use it today and will save a few pennies, but if you surf in truly cold water, it's worth the extra to get temp rated wax
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Postby CloverBoy » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:36 am

I used to work extensively with foam, fiberglass, and epoxy. Never, never, never use denatured alcohol, acetone or other harsh chemicals on your board. It deteriorates the resin on the board, and if you get too much in a crack it will eat up the foam like water on cotton candy. These chemicals are used in resin-working to clean (by deterioration and desolving) your brushes and other tools.

It really shouldn't be necessary to go any further than scraping the wax off of your stick. A thin film won't make any difference in the end.

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Re: have question about thickness of board

Postby garbarrage » Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:18 pm

andrew84 wrote: It's a JLS brand, 8' 0" long, 22 5/8" wide, and 2 5/8" or 7/8" thick. I am 5' 8" and weigh about 195 lbs. Basically, I want to make sure that I won't sink this board. Is the board thick enough?


reckon you'll struggle to sink that board even if you try.... good first board and refreshing to see someone get a sensible board for their first one. far too many "i've just bought 5'8" toothpick and it doesn't seem to work" posters.
that thing will go on nearly anything...
post how you got on.
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