Surfing Waves

A local surf shop has the following deal ..

Hawaiian Soul surfboards, complete with 5mm Alder boardbag, Java Leash, Fcs Fins and wax

Plain white gloss £285.00 or with colour and glossed £300.00.

All sizes avalible from 6'10" to 9'6".




What are Hawaiian Soul boards like? Are they pop-outs?

Is that price pretty reasonable?

And (maybe a stupid question) is it a mini mal? Because it doesn't actually say!

Cheers!

Is it a website? Do you have a link?

Yeah, it doesn't really say much more than I posted though. But here it is - http://www.saltcity.co.uk/package.html

Chris369 wrote:A local surf shop has the following deal ..

Hawaiian Soul surfboards, complete with 5mm Alder boardbag, Java Leash, Fcs Fins and wax

Plain white gloss £285.00 or with colour and glossed £300.00.

All sizes avalible from 6'10" to 9'6".




What are Hawaiian Soul boards like? Are they pop-outs?

Is that price pretty reasonable?

And (maybe a stupid question) is it a mini mal? Because it doesn't actually say!

Cheers!

same deal going here aswell......
Trans Surf

its a pretty good deal, but the website i used was

Surfed Out

if you use their loyalty card you get £30 quid off aswell. they are really helpful aswell.

P.s Hawaiian souls are not pop outs.

...maybe i should use the word "aswell" a bit more.....

Maybe I'll get one of those then. I'll probably get it from the place I linked to though, same place I got my wetsuit from, he's a cool guy

Thanks

I bought one



It's 7ft 6. Got a soft roof rack thing too and was surprised it worked on my car but it seems ok so saved myself 200 odd quid there as I don't have to buy a proper roof rack!

It's so light compared to those foam boards I've been hiring. Will have no trouble taking this down to the sea

I've been surfing a 9'2 Hawaiian Soul board for well over a year now, I found it to be an excellent all round board and would definitely recommend one, particularly to a beginner or intermediate surfer. Tend to be very thick bouyant boards so nice and stable and pick up waves well, and as you see the price is very reasonable. I've also surfed the 8' and 7'6 mini-mals as well, all really good.

Only prob I found was the glass seemed quite thin and I picked up a lot of dings and cracks, all easily repairable though, and could just be down to my surfing... My board has been surfed in all sizes, from whitewater up to surfing Thurso East at double overhead, took them all no probs (albeit it wasn't me on it in double overhead Thurso East )

Not sure about the manufacturing of them, or if they could be classed as pop-outs. Mass produced in China as far as I know, and imported by various companies incl Alder. A mate sells them through his surf school and you'l find plenty of them being surfed around East Coast Scotland.

I asked the guy in Salt City if it was a pop-out and he said something along the lines of this ...

"no, I've never sold a pop-out in x years. Pop-out is a swear word in here"

And a guy above said they weren't so I don't think they are.

I'm really happy with it though. Took it out for the first time on Saturday and was brilliant, so much easier to turn than foam boads and just felt better to ride, like I had more control. Took a bit of getting used to at first though but I'm alright now.

Cool, glad you enjoying it. So much smoother and faster to paddle than a foamie huh?

Yeah much smoother and faster! I love it, can't wait to get back out on it

Chris369 wrote:Yeah, it doesn't really say much more than I posted though. But here it is - http://www.saltcity.co.uk/package.html

I just popped into that shop the other day mate, seems like a wicked deal. And if you ever want a shorter board you can trade it in for £95 and he'll swap it for you. The guy there is awesome, made me laugh no end.


Plus you get a lot of freebies, i'm just wondering about the material it's made of.

Anyone know about the board material?

Not popouts, glass on foam boards imported from China through Alder I believe.

eastcoastsurfshop wrote:Not popouts, glass on foam boards imported from China through Alder I believe.

Scratch all of the above, I spoke to a few mates who manage surf shops and they both strongly stopped me from buying one, apparently xxxxx boards with xxxxx material, like a brick in water. He would know, he used to sell them. If you ask me, that sales guy bought a load, realised they are xxxxx and now can't get rid of them.

Stay clear folks. Don't buy Hawaiian Soul.

Scratch all of the above, I spoke to a few mates who manage surf shops and they both strongly stopped me from buying one, apparently xxxxx boards with xxxxx material, like a brick in water. He would know, he used to sell them. If you ask me, that sales guy bought a load, realised they are xxxxx and now can't get rid of them.

Stay clear folks. Don't buy Hawaiian Soul.

Total crap! HS are well made traditional glassfibre boards. They are not high performance lightweight fibreglass slash 'n' tear boards it's true but then again they are strong (FOR A GLASS BOARD). Shapes are up to date with good bouancy and quality materials and construction. They are made in China and imported from Alder. We have sold loads this year and we have boards in demo, come and try one out.

There is so much xxxxx on this forum...

croydebaysurfing wrote:

Scratch all of the above, I spoke to a few mates who manage surf shops and they both strongly stopped me from buying one, apparently xxxxx boards with xxxxx material, like a brick in water. He would know, he used to sell them. If you ask me, that sales guy bought a load, realised they are xxxxx and now can't get rid of them.

Stay clear folks. Don't buy Hawaiian Soul.

Total crap! HS are well made traditional glassfibre boards. They are not high performance lightweight fibreglass slash 'n' tear boards it's true but then again they are strong (FOR A GLASS BOARD). Shapes are up to date with good bouancy and quality materials and construction. They are made in China and imported from Alder. We have sold loads this year and we have boards in demo, come and try one out.

There is so much xxxxx on this forum...

it must be hard selling your product.

croydebaysurfing wrote:There is so much xxxxx on this forum...

CroydeBaySurfing... Hawaiian Soul seller... so this is probably... damn, forgotten your name... the guy from the Little Pink Shop?

Best not to insult the forum too much for two reasons...
1) Of all the forums out there, this one has the least macho bullsh*t on it and is one of the only ones where newbies are welcomed, which has got to be good for your business.

2) A lot of the guys and girls from here surf Croyde and the surrounding area and use your shop. Best not insult your customers huh?

Yes hands up, apologies that was a rash comment and quite undeserved, sorry 'bout that. Nothing like the "pop-out" word to rile a surf shop owner!

We get a lot of this with the advent of epoxy boards. The fact that they are painted last and you can't see into the board leads people to wrongly assume that they are moulded. It has been very refreshing this year that traditional construction fibreglass boards have (for us) anyway made a real comeback and have generally sold very well. (HS in particular).

We have found that people who have used the "pop-out" when questioned generally have no idea of what a pop-out actually is. If it is applied to any board that uses a mould in the manufacturing process then all those expensive Surftech/Boardworx Signature models are pop-outs!

Freebird.. (defunct 2003) made at Chhivenor, now thats a proper pop-out. Two halves laid up with chop-strand matt fibreglass and white resin (same as yacht hulls)...Foam chemicals mixed and poured in one half then the other half clamped in place whilst the foam expands and fills the board (on a good day). All decals are on the outside, graphics painted on last or applied with vynal.

Good points.. cheap and thats about it!
Bad points... Heavy and cumbersome. Prone to delamination , sometimes within 2 weeks! This was due to heat expansion/cold contraction of airbubbles in the core combined with poor adhesion of the chopped strand matt skin to the core. Add rider jumping up and down on deck.. delamination occurs. Not the end of the world till you get a hole in the board as then there is a void for water to fill it up. Any knock to the rail would result in a sharp edge as the seam concealment strip chipped away.

Freebird did refine the the construction and in later days switch to fibreglass cloth instead of chopped strand matt. This made the boards lighter. The ones that didn't delaminate weren't too bad. These were originally launched (innocently) under the name of Surftech but the Surftech brand we know today arrived at that time and put a stop to that so they became "Wave-tec".

Mr. Freebird (Ade) was (is) a very good custom shaper which he didn't get enough credit for. When asked why he made all the pop-outs (a waste of his talents) he replied that his (pop-out) order book was always full so what was he supposed to do?

Ade sold the business to some cornish guys with immaculate timing, literally weeks before the first NSP boards arrived. Despite the handover the purchasers produced hideous crap (solid pale blue boards) which delammed then twisted and shrivelled as the cores shrunk. They didn't survive long.

Modern techniques may use the odd mould or two but they are thankfully far removed from the old pop-outs.

The nearest thing that survives still in production are some of the Bic boards. The ACS moulded polyethlyne boards (the ones with black plastic noses) are built from the outside in.. i.e. Shell first (rotary moulded polyethlne,, inc some recycled) then injected through a hole in the nose with polyurethane surfboard foam (not polystyrene like expoxy board).

This hole is then capped with a black plastic shield. (If you remove the cap it looks scarily like a hot water bottle spout!) These ACS Bics are cheap and held with warm affection by many but generally heavy with too much flex, not enough float.. and the decals fall off. The other Epoxy CTS Bic boards are good and generally underrated...and the decals fall off. A case of good Bic/bad Bic which only adds to the confusion.

Sorry for the history/lesson/rant but imho a Custom Fibreglass board is the way to go, all these other things are just attempts to produce something cheaper.. not better, cheaper.

We've always championed well made fibreglass traditional construction boards whether made in the UK or not, but now there is such a huge choice of products out there. Coming back to the point, Alder are an excellent UK Surfing company (family owned since the '60's) and they produce excellent products and that includes Hawaiin Soul.

Croydebaysurfing - sort of on topic - whilst you are posting can you tell me a bit about the construction of the Dixon carpets you sell and what sort of glassing the boards have. Never seem to get replies when you email your shop which ain't that good!

The glassing is 4oz+6oz on deck and 4oz on the bottom.
Foam is Australian either Burford or Midget Farrelly. We have run a 7'2" and a 6'10" Dixon carpet which have been used for demo, hire, lessons plus staff use. The construction is good and we have had no problems except the odd scar from hire people dropping them etc.

We try to answer all emails of course as its obviously good business practice! We do get a lot though and we get an incredible amount of spam through the online shop server which sometimes means we accidentally delete the odd genuine message by mistake. Sorry you didn't get a reply.

On the subject of hire people... Somebody was spotted last year in Myrtle Meadow campsite, knocking their tentpegs in with one of our hire boards!