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KS,Tomcat or any shapers

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:32 am
by FishKid Wales
Is it possible to fix smaller dings using the dust that comes from the blank and resin by putting the resin in 1st then the dust and then coat with more resin?

If so what resin/harderner will i need and how would 1 obtain some offcuts and dust?

Cheers boyo's!

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:40 am
by grub
Firstly it depends on what you classify as a small ding :roll: ... My experience stops at poly and depending on the core material of your board you may need to use epoxy :shrug: ; if you don’t know go with epoxy as polyester resin may just eat your foam. For large dings you may need to clean up the damage and fit a new piece of foam… pictures help the detail of a response.

Yes :thumbs: , you can combine foam dust and/or off cuts with resin to create a lighter mix (hence the word "mix", not after or before) after which you will need to seal with a top coat of pure resin and preferably a layer or two of glass fibre. BUT there are products aimed at doing this called a multitude of trade names but more or less the same thing such as micro-balls, microsheres, Q-cells, etc. talk to a local shaper/shop and see what he/she can arrange for you; noting that these products will also cause the resin to set white in colour and its advisable to seal with a top coat upon finishing.

For a first (minor) repair you can't go past a basic repair kit such as an O&E kit, etc. They usually have a list of the proucts inside and a basic instruction manual (inc. Q-cells or the like). Good luck, its not that hard and a great chance for a learning experience :wink: .

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:05 pm
by kitesurfer
Assuming it's a polyester board then u'll need polyester resin or a ding repair kit lex. You could use surfboard dust but you'd be better of using either micro ballons as grub suggested or better still micro fibres if you can get it which is very finely chopped glass fibre.

Photos would be good cause in some case u can insert a piece of foam before using a filler mix if it's a big ding!

KS

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:07 pm
by IdRatherBeSurfing
are microballons that crazy a$$ white stuff that came in my solarez kit thing??

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:10 pm
by drowningbitbybit
kitesurfer wrote: You could use surfboard dust but you'd be better of using either micro ballons as grub suggested or better still micro fibres if you can get it which is very finely chopped glass fibre.


The kit what I got contains not only resin and microballoons, but also glass fibre and microfibres - its a great kit, and has fixed up some major damage. I cant remember the manufacturer/supplier, but I can have a look later if you like?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:47 pm
by FishKid Wales
Cheers every1.
the story goes:
I fixed up a little 6'5 i bought awhile ago and a mate saw the job i had done on that and asked me to look at his board (in exchange for a few beer tokens),i bought this stuff called rudy's (or something similar) which had a small amout of fibreglass,some white powder and this stuff which looked and smelled of superglue, the theory behind this stuff is that you pour in a small layer of white powder then add 'superglue' and it sets before your very eyes(after a little dodgy smokeing), the problem with this stuff is that even with the lid back on tight thi sstuff only lasts for 1 use as it goes hard makeing it expensive to fix dings and after following the instructions religously the stuff has started to break aaprt within the former ding.

So basically im looking for, something that the resin comes with a hardener (so it doesnt go off being left on the shelf) and some of those polyballs,and drys white.

Dbb the name and a opinion of the stuff you have used would be helpful.
Chris is it possible to buy small quantitys of resin/hardener anywhere? and which type would i need for filling small holes?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:04 pm
by jethrodog
I have a Ding All epoxy kit. Comes with resin, hardener, fiberglass cloth, sanding sponges, instructions. When I bought this I also saw on the shelf individual bottles of resin or hardener. They also had what looked like crumbly pieces of "foam", said it was for bigger repairs and filling large gashes and cuts. Didn't really know anything about it so I didn't pay too much attention. Sorry. But I do know they sell individual pieces if you look around.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:04 pm
by tomcat360
For 10 bucks you can get a 1 lb pound bag of glass bubbles/micro-balloons/etc, which is a ton of material, should last you for a very very long time.

Solar-ez sells some hotcoat resin by the pint, which isn't too much but should work enough for a board worth of dings.

Ideally what you want to do (how I was taught) is first tape off around the ding, sand down a bit, cut out if it's torn and such, fill with microbubbles and resin mix, let it set, and then do a patch of cloth and resin. Sand that around the edges and then hot coat and sand. If you sanded the first time enough, then the hot-coated clothed patch should be the same height as the rest of the board.

And presto! A good ding fix.