Advice on board for small waves

[Tudeo]

There's no need for this harsh tone on an internet forum where people u never met just come for info, not to be treated as a kid..

That's right, the difference is by now I know this guy by his postings, see the difference wc?

[Deansp]

Any thoughts on the JS 107 / JS black box II ? Read some reviews that both of them are good in small waves and can hold it up on some bigger ones. Have a friend coming from Australia in a couple of weeks and could ask him to bring me one if its worth it.

[Tudeo]

Any thoughts on the JS 107 / JS black box II ?

I was looking at those the other day, but only know what's on their website. Nice site btw. They show very nice how reduced concave works in boards for bigger waves.

But it's the same story everywhere, u need to pick a compromise between the key elements (rocker, width) of a board.

Low rocker + big width = small waves; big rocker + narrow board = big waves. Just do ur research to get a feel of the extremes and then choose the compromise that best suits u.

Hey, I read u surfed the Wadi pool. How was that?

[dtc]

I had a look at that video, there is a bit of a conundrum. The bigger waves, that the short boarders at the start were surfing, probably wont suit a longboard. Firstly they are steep and fastm, really just shore break, and a LB isn't going to be an easy ride on that time of wave. Also, the wave period (the time between the waves) is really short, and for a LB its hard to turn and get the thing moving in a short time period.

However, the smaller waves that had the longboarders (like that guy nose riding) will be almost unrideable on anything other than a longboard. They were fat and mushy and just wont have the push a shorter board needs.

So you may have to get two boards! I don't know which of those wave types is more common, but if its generally wind blown I suspect its the smaller waves

I wouldn't worry too much about duck diving. It looks like you can almost walk out to the break, and even if you cant its only a short paddle. Between set waves, even with the bigger swell, and you will be out the back in 10 seconds

I don't think there is much use asking us about specific boards. Every board surfs a bit different, every surfer is different and I don't think anyone here has surfed those waves (although some of them look a lot like the waves in Japan that waikikichan surfs). So you have identified 5 or 6 quality boards that have good reputations, the only way to find out if they suit you is to buy one and try it.

(as to the squabblers, if you have a problem with a post, use the moderator)

[benjl]

After having properly tried my 5'10 dominator in all sorts of surf from knee high clean to overhead and hollow / choppy I can say it's a great board.

It doesn't catch knee high as well as my 7'2 would and also doesn't handle overhead as well as my 7'2 would, but anything in between is awesome.
Bare in mind that mine is only 5'10 so is quite small, but a bigger one day (6'6) could be better for both ends of the spectrum.
I'm loving it, as both a quad and thruster.

If I was looking for a single board for 1-5ft and mushy, I would go for
My torq 7'2 fun board. It will grovel in mush and still whip around when needed.

[Deansp]

Hey, I read u surfed the Wadi pool. How was that?

Was really nice, the advance wave is nice, is chest/head high but is a fat wave not to strong so no tubes or anything is just to do one or two turns and it's over. Is nice to improve and train some things since it's always the same, the drop is a little bit messy when it creates the wave but is doable. The only problem is that unless you book it just for you and your friends you get 55 mins, half the time rights and half the time lefts, since i am goofy I didn't really want the rights. But is a nice experience. A little bit expensive tho, around 40 dolars (10 for admission into the park and 30 for one hour of surfing).

[Deansp]

I had a look at that video, there is a bit of a conundrum. The bigger waves, that the short boarders at the start were surfing, probably wont suit a longboard. Firstly they are steep and fastm, really just shore break, and a LB isn't going to be an easy ride on that time of wave. Also, the wave period (the time between the waves) is really short, and for a LB its hard to turn and get the thing moving in a short time period.

However, the smaller waves that had the longboarders (like that guy nose riding) will be almost unrideable on anything other than a longboard. They were fat and mushy and just wont have the push a shorter board needs.

So you may have to get two boards! I don't know which of those wave types is more common, but if its generally wind blown I suspect its the smaller waves

I wouldn't worry too much about duck diving. It looks like you can almost walk out to the break, and even if you cant its only a short paddle. Between set waves, even with the bigger swell, and you will be out the back in 10 seconds

I don't think there is much use asking us about specific boards. Every board surfs a bit different, every surfer is different and I don't think anyone here has surfed those waves (although some of them look a lot like the waves in Japan that waikikichan surfs). So you have identified 5 or 6 quality boards that have good reputations, the only way to find out if they suit you is to buy one and try it.

(as to the squabblers, if you have a problem with a post, use the moderator)

Yeah I notice that aswell, but for me a long board will be har since I can't fit it in the car and is around 1/1:30 hour drive to the beach. I think I will buy a short one and on those days were you can't get there with a shore I will rent a long in the surf house for 10 dolares. Because anyway here you have waves like maximum 6 days a month...

7-2 will be to big for my car! I will check with the surf house next to the beach what boards they have to rent and if hey have demo boards, because I realized that all the boards i said are quite good and I would have either to sacrifice the small wave oerfomance if I want to take the board to bigger waves or sacrifice the bigger waves and get a board strictly for small waves. So it's just a matter of my preference between the models since a small wave board from lost/JS/CI/FireWire will be all in the same level of quality and performance.

Thank you once again guys!

[benjl]

Further update to my post.. It was chest to overhead today and after 3 waves on my performance short board, I threw it in and went back to
My 5'10 FireWire dominator. Did not regret it! Caught more waves than anyone and carved up a storm. Love that board more and board. Everything today from knee high to overhead and (half barrelled), stuck every single drop no matter how late.

Look for maybe a 6'0 or perhaps 6'4 version? The extra length will aid in both small wave mush and also help it track a bit better in bigger stuff.
I've gotten used to mine and can handle it in bigger stuff now. Love it. And that is very very rare for
Me to say that about a board

[Tudeo]

I've gotten used to mine and can handle it in bigger stuff now. Love it. And that is very very rare for Me to say that about a board

Great to hear u like the Dom that much! I love mine too, even though it must be a very different board/experience at 6'6".

I agree with ur recommendation for a size between 6 and 604.