Jeff Bushman makes Hawaii's first green surfboards

All surfing hardware topics here. Boards, leashes, racks, wetsuits, boardies, surfgear, ding repair, wetsuit repair, surf wax...... you get the idea

Jeff Bushman makes Hawaii's first green surfboards

Postby chef » Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:31 am

North Shore shapers Jeff Bushman and Kyle Bernhardt launched Country Feeling Surfboards, the pioneer label for Hawaii's green board revolution

Read the story at mixedplatespecial.com.
chef
New Member
 
Posts: 2
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:34 am

Postby chef » Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:34 am

chef
New Member
 
Posts: 2
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:34 am

Postby Katza8uk » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:46 am

if you use anything soy based or palm oil based, you're adding to a ecological disaster.

Never ever use biofuels either
Katza8uk
Grom
 
Posts: 49
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:50 pm
Location: Plymouth or wales

Postby greg@hoodatsurfco » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:22 pm

Katza8uk wrote:Never ever use biofuels either



why? you mean things like fuels made from plants n what not?
User avatar
greg@hoodatsurfco
SW Pro
 
Posts: 555
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 11:05 pm
Location: Northern California

Postby DaveM666 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 5:29 pm

you need a gigantic yield to make very little fuel, can't remember the exact numbers but it is completly disproportionate
DaveM666
Grom
 
Posts: 28
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:02 pm

Postby Katza8uk » Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:01 am

its completly ridiculous! the majority of these biofuels are being grown in indonesia, malaysia, brazil etc on land which was previously primary rainforest and is now being turned into mass monoculture. And to get rid of the rainforest, they often burn it (fire=emissions last time i checked). In malaysia (cant remember whether it was peninsula or borneo malaysia) they are currently producing a crop the size of holland! A large majority of Brazils Atlantic forest is also being destroyed in order for another mass monoculture. Travelled down to Singapore from KL and up from there to Mersing and back to KL and apart from when we were in the highlands its all palm oil.

Sorry bit of a rant of mine!
Katza8uk
Grom
 
Posts: 49
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:50 pm
Location: Plymouth or wales

Postby Katza8uk » Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:18 am

o and if you ever offset your carbon production, be careful which company you go with to :P

sorry im a bit of an environmental geek
Katza8uk
Grom
 
Posts: 49
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:50 pm
Location: Plymouth or wales

Postby Roy Stewart » Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:13 am

That's horrific, the fact that the boards are essentially disposable makes it even worse, and what an insult to our intelligence the marketing is.
User avatar
Roy Stewart
SW Pro
 
Posts: 800
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:41 am
Location: New Zealand

Postby Katza8uk » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:41 pm

I read through the article and i think the fact that the production of it and its ouput is a lot 'greener' than the majority of surfboards is a good thing, but as soon as i saw soya mentioned it just cancelled the rest out a bit. Its a shame about palm oil actually cos all of the tree can be used but its just the fact the way its produced is so destructive!

i'll stop ranting now!
Katza8uk
Grom
 
Posts: 49
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:50 pm
Location: Plymouth or wales

Postby dougirwin13 » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:49 am

1) They aren't 100% green.

2) "Bernie" on sways and compsand has been doing "as green" (and possibly greener) for years.

3) The old alais, etc were 100% green.

Interesting read tho!

-doug
User avatar
dougirwin13
SW Pro
 
Posts: 867
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:46 am
Location: http://www.compsand.com/

Postby Roy Stewart » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:13 am

The point is that all these 'bio' products are replacing natural and diverse forests with a monoculture which relies heavily on petroleum fertilisers and sprays, thus it's actually an environmental disaster. .. . and yet there seems to be some kind of social pressure to say that it's an improvement on the petroleum based boards, when it isn't at all. . . . . the vibe is that we are supposed to say that it's " not 100% green but a step in the right direction". . . . but it isn't it's going in completely the wrong direction !

It's the wrong direction because it sells us an environmental disaster under the guise of environmental sustainability. . . .. classic double talk of the worst kind, and all for money, it's just a blatant lie.


Tell Bushman to do his homework, we are tired of marching to the bull propaganda tunes pumped out by the USA surf government.


A 'cool' green marketing vibe which hides the promotion of deforestation and desertification is unacceptable. . . .. . and that's what Bushman is doing . . . . it's probably hard for most surfers to question the latest from a legendary Hawaiian shaper, as it creates a jarring note, but it has to be done.. . . .

. . so no softy apologetics just because we don't want to rock the boat please


:evil:
User avatar
Roy Stewart
SW Pro
 
Posts: 800
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:41 am
Location: New Zealand

Postby dougirwin13 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:29 am

Roy,

Hence my point 3.

Tom Wegener, yourself and a very few other guys are the only one's i have heard of doing truly "green" (i.e., 100% environmentally sustainable) boards... Or as close as we will get for some time anyway.

-doug
User avatar
dougirwin13
SW Pro
 
Posts: 867
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:46 am
Location: http://www.compsand.com/

Postby Roy Stewart » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:11 am

Hi Doug,

Thanks for the compliment, I'm not sure how 'green' my boards are actually, but one thing they have going for them is that they last a long time, if we are going to use valuable resin we want a keeper.

Most of our Paulownia trees in the back yard are sprouting really fast, a few got frost bitten though.

.
User avatar
Roy Stewart
SW Pro
 
Posts: 800
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:41 am
Location: New Zealand

Postby dougirwin13 » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:53 am

OK, maybe "approaching carbon neutral" is closer :D

If you grow your own timber (known you do for a long time) and use cellulose epoxy for the resin you are getting as close as practicable at the moment, I think.

Man, I gotta get some Paulownia seeds... Paul is absolutely over the moon about that timber.

-doug
Compsand.com - The Composite Surfboard Cooperative!
User avatar
dougirwin13
SW Pro
 
Posts: 867
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 0 post
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:46 am
Location: http://www.compsand.com/


Similar topics

Return to Surfing Hardware