1st fin setup

[canadasb]

im a seasoned skateboarder/snowboarder from canada, and i surf 4 weeks outta the year in mexico. i just bought a 7s super fish 6'3x20x2 1/2
i know the 7s has got a bad rep .. but it was super cheap,i dont need anything to advanced, and there is not alot of options where im from..

I got the board with 2 M7 fins and 2 M5 fins, should i ride it as a quad? i was planning on riding it as a thruster, if i do should, should i ride it with 3 M7's? I have just started surfing in my early 20's, and the last time i went sufing i was getting up and just makeing a bottom turn with a 6'6 fish.

Please help, theres really no one else i can ask. any help/input will be greatly appreciated!!

thanks!
from Edmonton Alberta.

[Jimi]

I hven't surfed a 7s, but usually in a quad you put the bigger fins in the front, and the smaller (which don't have a flat side either) in the back positions. You have 2 pairs of large fins, which I assume are sided (as in the front 2 fins off a tri-fin). Take the board and fins to a reputable surf shop, or even better, a shaper and ask their advice on buying the correct set of rear fins (if you want to use it as a quad) Otherwise, pick up a centre fin for either the M5 or M7s and use it as a thruster. You probably won't really notice too much of a difference anyway if you're only just starting to bottom turn.

[IB_Surfer]

As a quad you should use the larger fins in front of the small ones, so M7's up front with the M5's in back. Also, you should notice wither the M5's are center or side fins, I'm assuming they are centers
Does it have 5 fins placements to ride it as a thruster? Unless it comes with the extra set up you won't be able to use it as a thruster

[Aloha]

I've ridden the 7S Super Fish 6'0" as a thruster.
Yeah it's mass produced in Thailand but I found it to be a great little board. Contrary to what others have reported I found it durable as hell, it wouldn't ding where others did. It catches anything and is a lot of fun. But yes it has no street cred so guys might not give you waves...

The only performance issues I found are learning to compensate for the lack of nose rocker and it feels a bit unresponsive until you pump some speed into it.

So I reckon as a beginner go the thruster option, I'd go for the M5's it's a small wave board so M5's should do the trick.

[canadasb]

hey, thanks to all who responded!

Yeah the board came with a diamond (5 fin set up), they sent 4 side fins, 2 M5's and M7's. Smaller wave board as in 3-5' maybe 6' waves? Those are the sized waves that i surf, and feel comfortable surfing. I thought from having a good background in skateboarding and snowboarding that the thruster set up would be better transition into surfing than a quad.

Whats the main difference from setting up a thruster fin set-up with the m5 compared to the m7? I Know the m7 is bigger, im guessing that the bigger the fin the more drag/harder to maneuver the board.

Yeah i noticed that the board has little noes rocker, When popping up and droping the wave, im planning on leaning back, rather than being focued on be centered. i dont want to burry that noes! yeah? lol .


Thanks again!
have a good day all!

[Aloha]

I've surfed the Super Fish in waves from tiny dribble to double overhead. This was the 6'0 and I'm just under 170 cm (5'5") and just under 64 Kg (141 pounds).

With a board that size and width it gets quite hard to get a good carve on the rail when you are going very fast in bigger surf. You've got 3 extra inches in length so that might help a tiny bit more, however the whole shape of it is for smaller waves. It's wide, short and fat with little rocker. It is also difficult to ride this board in sucky (hollow) waves. The rails are quite fat so it's hard to stay in the face when it's steep so you'll end up riding lower down the wave. Plus because of the increased bouyancy you'll often hang in the lip during take off which is bad when it's sucky as you want to get under that lip and get down the face fast!

Also the lack of rocker means keeping the nose out of the water during the drop is harder. You can use nose rocker to turn you in a drop by just angling the rail into the face but this boards got none

This doesn't mean it's a bad board, it's just not designed for those waves. As a beginner you probably won't be riding those types of waves anyway.

It's still an every day board, because most days, in most places in the world are small or mushy. When you need performance in sucky or big steep waves then this board has problems. Of course if you only ride this board you'll get good at riding it in these conditions too, but if you ride a board that's made for those conditions you'll see it's short comings. It's Horses for Courses.

As for fins I don't have much experience with trying out different combinations.
There are a lot of variables with fins and size is just one of them. As a general rule you ride bigger fins in bigger waves or if you are a very big guy. Smaller fins for smaller days or if you are a smaller guy. The M5 or G5 is pretty much the standard fin that everybody rides in everything.

[Jimi]

Just to add to Aloha, generally lighter surfers need smaller fins than heavier surfers, and the board will catch waves more easily with smaller fins. The disadvantage is that in steeper faster waves, small fins don't offer enough 'bite'.

In your case though, I'd pick up another m5 for the tail, and use the M5s as a thruster set up.

[canadasb]

Thanks for shareing all your knowlege Aloha,

Yeah, im 5'9 170 ibs, im working on getting down to 165ibs for xmas when i go surfing for 3 weeks. Yeah i basically got that board to catch as many waves as possable on a shorter board, once i get the hang or turning a bit better i will get a thruster. The waves i surf are 3-6feet, they dont barrel to often, and i dont know to much, but they dont suck up a ton of water, nothing like pipeline or anything.. haha. so for poping up, lean back and keep the nose out of the water.

Thanks Jimi, i just ordered a a m5 center fin, i cant wait to get in the water!!

[canadasb]

Me again, setting up with a twin fin would feel more loose right? if i were to set up as a twin should i use the 2 fin placements closest to eachother. : :

[IB_Surfer]

If you are setting up as a twin you want the two fins up front, not the bottom. The bottom is specifically for trailer and center fins, hydrodynamics and such...

[canadasb]

awsome, thanks for getting back to me teach! , sorry it took so long to say thanks, i forgot i posted that. so your saying
_:________: <----------- use these 2 right?? yeah im going to use he 2 M7s and use it as a twin, more loose i heard. thats what i want.. thanks again!
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[RoryDederick]

Yeah I don't like the 7s but love the M5 at the moment. I got mine on ebay second hand but it's great.
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