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Nice perspective view of the "Lock"

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:42 pm
by waikikikichan
You can't noseride unless you can "lock" down the tail as you walk forward to the nose.

Fast forward to 4:21 to see this uncommon top down perspective.


Re: Nice perspective view of the "Lock"

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:02 pm
by BaNZ
How do you lockdown the tail? From the video looks like, I gather you can't be too deep in the pocket? You also have to stay on the upper part of the wave when you're noseriding?

I keep getting to probably around 1 feet from the nose of the board and I'm stalling the board. I can't really practice risky things like that because I surf during 3-5pm and it is normally very crowded. If I try something like that and fall off, my board will hit someone.

Re: Nice perspective view of the "Lock"

PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:26 pm
by oldmansurfer
That is cool

Re: Nice perspective view of the "Lock"

PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:03 am
by ConcreteVitamin
That top down view is great! Shows that small movements go a long way. BTW, her back foot, even when turning didn't seem to be directly over the fin, but rather a bit forward of it. Am I misreading that?

Re: Nice perspective view of the "Lock"

PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:46 am
by waikikikichan
BaNZ wrote:How do you lockdown the tail? From the video looks like, I gather you can't be too deep in the pocket? You also have to stay on the upper part of the wave when you're noseriding?

Like with most sports, victory or defeat is a matter of inches. Yes, you can't be too deep in the pocket or the wave will eat you and flip you over. But you also can't be too away from the curl which gives you the lock. You can't be too high on the wave or too low, but like Goldilocks you have to be just right.

BaNZ wrote:I keep getting to probably around 1 feet from the nose of the board and I'm stalling the board.

Funny, I asked Wingnut the exact same thing and also added that I've been trying tmy hardest to noseride for 3 years but still couldn't. Later he instilled in me the tools to help me noseride. 2 years later I won my first noseriding contest.

Re: Nice perspective view of the "Lock"

PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:12 pm
by Naeco78
It's interesting that longboards moved away from the Displacement Hulls, which basically did the same thing. The faster the board goes, the more the tail of the board submerges into the water (same principle as the back of a boat).

I think they use other designs to achieve a similar effect on modern longboards.. but it does make me wonder if the fundamental design of the older boards made it easier to noseride.

Re: Nice perspective view of the "Lock"

PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:39 pm
by jaffa1949
Very interesting observation add to that earlier boards were way heavier! My first was a balsa pig board at 9’6”. ridiculous rocker and pointed nose with very broad round tail lock the tail and my pre teen weight could stand like the statue of liberty on the nose! :lol:

Re: Nice perspective view of the "Lock"

PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:19 pm
by waikikikichan
ConcreteVitamin wrote: BTW, her back foot, even when turning didn't seem to be directly over the fin, but rather a bit forward of it. Am I misreading that?

She is not so much turning as she is WEAVING. She is on TRIM, breaks off trim and falls down the face and then engages the rail and falls back up into TRIM again. Especially back side where you lean back on your heels versus pressuring your toes and ball of your foot on the frontside, it's not so easy to tell. Real subtle movement.

Re: Nice perspective view of the "Lock"

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:54 am
by ConcreteVitamin
waikikikichan wrote:
ConcreteVitamin wrote: BTW, her back foot, even when turning didn't seem to be directly over the fin, but rather a bit forward of it. Am I misreading that?

She is not so much turning as she is WEAVING. She is on TRIM, breaks off trim and falls down the face and then engages the rail and falls back up into TRIM again. Especially back side where you lean back on your heels versus pressuring your toes and ball of your foot on the frontside, it's not so easy to tell. Real subtle movement.

I see what you mean now, after going back to look at that top-down view. Real subtle movements on the feet: front foot did not move, but laterally lifted when shifting weight back; back foot moved position across the stringer when she changed rails. What I missed on the first viewing is the fluid hip movement. Very nice flow.