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noseriding

Posted:
Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:03 pm
by voyager
I have a Blacker [heavy] 10' 1" single fin longboard and a Walden Mega Magic 9', which one would be best for noseriding/cross stepping, if anyone has an opinion on this?
cheers!
Re: noseriding

Posted:
Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:41 am
by Big H
You own them right? Hard to understand what you're asking....have you tried either or both? Bigger should be easier, but the boards aren't responsible for technique. There was a good thread on this that helped me; I don't nose ride but I do cross step to get back into A wave after a stalling turn or to back off to the tail to turn.
Re: noseriding

Posted:
Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:48 am
by Big H
Start here....
https://surfing-waves.com/search.htm ... Cross+stepWakikichan is an active contributing member here and has a blog with lots of good info; poke around over there:
http://alohaki.jugem.jp/?eid=527This is the article that I was using:
http://alohaki.jugem.jp/?eid=488
Re: noseriding

Posted:
Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:22 am
by waikikikichan
If you can knee paddle the board, then the board should be able to hold you up to walk/cross step. Both board should be able to cross step on, but get to the nose, that's different.
Which of the 2 boards do you have a easier time bottom turning, trimming, and stalling ? Cause if you can't do those things first, Cross stepping won't matter. You can't SET the ball to be Spiked, if the ball doesn't get PASSED to the setter.
Re: noseriding

Posted:
Sun Nov 01, 2015 1:38 pm
by leinosaur
Wow! Thanks big H for the tip on the blog, and to Ki-chan for the blog itself! Brilliant stuff. To an inveterate student, with too much time for rumination between swells, the diagrams and metaphors are gold.
Re: noseriding

Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:39 am
by jaffa1949
I can just see Leinosaur cross stepping on his board swinging a baseball bat with one hand and leaping mid step to position that volleyball for a match winning spike.
A mighty fine visual construct there, I may be poking fun at it, the real bottom line is being able to feel and respond in the same instant to what the wave is offering for your ride. It really is about riding the wave.

Re: noseriding

Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:18 am
by leinosaur
Amen, Jaffa! Lest you worry, I'm far from sweating the small stuff, but rather stoked to catch, cruise, repeat and come back exhausted: but, It's been fun to read the blog, and then look for similar nuances on video, or think back to my own last session, and how certain principles apply to what went well or what didn't - and nothing to do with hanging ten, in my case . . . Yet! Instead, some of the most basic axioms like, 'turn from the tail' and 'look where you plan to go' are food for thought. Eventually that will all be part of setting up to walk the plank . . If that's what the wave calls for.
I've done a lot of math tutoring, and Wkkchn seems to apply the same method: take it back to the very basics and build back up from there . . plus it's fun to find a trove of surf photos that aren't of Kelly or John John, if you know what I mean. It's a nice change to see all shapes and sizes of folks on big boards and little waves.
Re: noseriding

Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:20 am
by jaffa1949
leinosaur wrote:It's a nice change to see all shapes and sizes of folks on big boards and little waves.
Agree with that, I fit the Archimedean principles of displacement of water equaling volume( in me not the board) and plimsoll's line laws. Lithe I ain't , classic front row forward in Rugby union style.
Enjoy , cause I'm enjoying you telling of your journey

Re: noseriding

Posted:
Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:49 am
by leinosaur
jaffa1949 wrote: I fit the Archimedean principles of displacement of water equaling volume( in me not the board) and plimsoll's line laws.
"Eureka!"
Lithe I ain't , classic front row forward in Rugby union style.
How does the old saw go, 'it ain't your volume, it's how you displace your water' (?)
enjoy , cause I'm enjoying you telling of your journey
Likewise . . . My journey has me back in Rhode Island for work (yesterday) and play (today) where the water's a bit warmer still (air and sea both about sixty 'F and sunny today); investigating my suspicion that 1' surf will give longer rides at a particular pebble-bottom reef break than it would at my usual sandy beach break in New Hampshire . . .
Gonna work the 9'2 for a while, if the surf is even plausible, then when the local shop opens I might see if they have something in a serious log for rent . . Which i will then try to noseride, since that was the original subject of this tangential and voluminous thread.
Timber!